Day 5

Discussion in 'Werewolf: The forum game' started by Harrow Orn, Jun 30, 2017.

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  1. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Harrow didn't include masons in the last game, I suspect that there are none in this.
     
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  2. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Can be or can't be ?
     
  3. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    It's also likely then that if you are agreeing with each other that you are likely to be on the same team.
    If that is the case does this not make your list shorter ?
     
  4. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    So who are people thinking of voting for tonight? We're going to have to start making a case for someone soon. These seem to be the names in the hat with reasons given by various players:

    WAS - led the witch hunt against Grrwood! Opti recommended viewing him.
    NW Orn - quiet, suspicious voting patterns
    Hornetgags - completely under the radar for almost the whole game
    Meh! - started witch hunt against Cthulhu
    PJ - quiet for a normally vocal player
    Steve Harrow - message timings coinciding with Wolf messages
    SLB - bluffing being the Harlot the whole time
    Otter - pointing fingers at WAS

    Definitely not going to be lynched:

    Squibba
    Dom

    No opinions really expressed by anyone about, even though named in a message today:

    BRLR

    I'm going to go out on a limb here. The Traitor will be more vocal, their job is to protect the wolves and steer suspicion away. There must be a good chance that the Beta and/or the Alpha are at least one of the three quiet players - NW Orn, Hornetgags and PJ.

    Edit: add Steve Harrow to the list of quiet players.
     
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2017
  5. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Sorry guys had back to back meetings this morning!

    What's the latest?
     
  6. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    I'm going to go for Steve Harrow unless we get a second message
     
  7. NW Orn

    NW Orn First Year Pro

    Now I'm really confused.

    I think Otter is overthinking it and I'm under-thinking it. Either way my head hurts. :confused:
     
  8. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    I voted for with a smile yesterday because I agreed his voting against grrwood looked iffy. With grrwood them named good, that argument doesn't stack up.

    But there is still the possibility grrwood suspected something so WAS named him evil. Too obvious or simply audacious enough to get away with?
     
  9. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    We don't know what to do.
     
  10. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    You're Good along with Dom and the rest of us are confused.
     
  11. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Charming! Never named in a message by good or evil but you want me lynched? Suspect.
     
  12. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    After last nights result I have no faith in my thoughts anymore!
     
  13. NW Orn

    NW Orn First Year Pro

    We're back at square one but with a headache.
     
  14. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Why are me and Dom both good? I mean I know I am but what confirms that?
     
  15. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    See previous post I made.
     
  16. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    I'm with you!
     
  17. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    SLBs write up with your timings, it all adds up to something.
     
  18. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    2nd anonymous message:



    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
     
  19. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

  20. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    That second message would be insanely misleading play from the backup Seer if it was them.

    The confirmed Wolf's message yesterday used the phrase "and bingo!". Why would the new Seer possibly decide to use that unusual turn of phrase again today?
     
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  21. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    NEW LIST SO OLD INFO ISN'T REFERRED TO.

    ANY ERRORS SAY SO.

    All Messages are in order of posting.
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    Day 1 Messages:

    "'Good morning everybody, it is your seer speaking. I viewed Ashdonwfc this morning, he is GOOD'

    "Hello everyone! I wanted to see whether anyone stood out more than another before viewing today. It is such pot luck. Went for Diamond and they are good. I am going to try and mix up the style of writing to avoid the wolf copying me in the next few days."

    We now know both are Good and Dead so these messages are irrelevant.


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    Day 2 Messages:

    "Ok everybody, I know the first day is difficult. People need to remember that shouting accusations about doesn't help anybody at this stage. Today I decided to view DAFT ROW he is EVIL. I also viewed Ashdon yesterday, he is Good."

    "Morning villagers. A mixed night last night. But fortune today as I viewed Steve Leo Beleck and he is evil! Ashdon was viewed as good by me yesterday. Shame that the wolf jumped at that knowledge. I do not know if Diamond is good or bad as I did not view them."

    Daft Row was found to be Good, which SLB then claimed to be the Harlot. Because no-one has challenged him on this it is still NOT guaranteed but he is very likely to be the Harlot and therefore Daft Row was the Tinker. Again. Poor *******.

    We can't rule out SLB playing the largest bluff in Werewolf history but it's very unlikely now unless the real Harlot has been quiet waiting for the right time. I'm personally inclined to believe he is the Harlot.


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    Day 3 Messages:

    "Ouch, yesterday's result was very difficult to take. Please forgive me for guiding you towards daft row, he was the tinker. Today I viewed SQUIBBA, he is GOOD. I did not view SLB, as I believe that he is probably the harlot."

    "Right everybody, last night was a shame but it was me who viewed SLB as EVIL so that helps a lot. I viewed OptimisticHornet today, he is GOOD."

    We know OptimisticHornet was the Seer and he would not view himself. Therefore the Squibba Message is from the Seer if we agree.

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    Day 4 Messages:

    "Ok last night has been expensive fellow villagers. Please think very carefully about your votes and messages. Today I viewed Dom, he is GOOD. I still believe we can win this."

    "Morning all, disappointing lynching last night. Thought about viewing main players behind that but then thought WAS and Grrwood voting for each other was unusual with wolves knowing each other and bingo. Grrwood is EVIL."

    Grrwood was found to be Good, so that means the 1st Message is TRUE. Dom is Good.

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    Day 5 Messages:

    "Sorry for delay. I am back up seer and had to quickly read through messages. We were tricked last night but we will not let it happen again. You all know Dom is Good. I viewed BRLR today and he is Good. Does not help much but narrows who might be evil."

    "Hey! The first message is a lie, I am the backup seer. I decided to view NW Orn as Otter who is an experienced player has been adamant that NW is Evil and we seem to be getting nowhere by following the mass opinion so I thought maybe if we listen to a quiet yet persistent minority they may be right and bingo! NW Orn is Evil!"

    Go Fish. Mob Rule post by Wolf or Genuine?

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    What we know then:

    Confirmed Good (Omitting Dead):

    Squibba
    Domthehornet

    Likely Good:

    SLB
    <Anyone he has stayed with and he announces>

    Undecided:

    BRLR (Good?)
    NW Orn (Evil?)

    Unknown:

    Powerjugs
    Otter
    WaS
    Meh!
    Hornetsgags
    Steve Harrow
     
  22. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    I was just looking back at the same. Surely the seer wouldn't do that, not after the scrutiny of every message, every punctuation and every writing style
     
  23. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Quiet or active is irrelevant...have you not figured that out with the early lynchings?

    The default position is "not posting much...must be the wolf...vote".

    You've been very active and started campaigns against people, you claim you're the harlot...you could well be, but the day 2 messages called you evil. You tried to bluff everyone by saying Daft Row was the tinker, but what was missed was confirmation the tinker would be classed as 'good'. So Daft Row being a tinker was good...not evil as the message from the wolf declared. The next message called you evil.

    This makes your situation clear, I do not believe you are the harlot, I believe you are either the traitor or a wolf.

    If your only reason to come after me and the others named is because of low activity....then someone who is overly active wants to control the conversation and divert attention away from himself.

    Your arguments have been spurious at best as you've been wrong on all the votes.

    Third time I'm going to vote for you.
     
  24. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Is there a character that shows as Evil when viewed by the Seer but is actually good?
     
  25. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Tinker. As is what happened to Daft Row. Both SLB and Daft Row were named Evil that day, but Daft Row turned up Good.
     
  26. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    The Tinker!
     
  27. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    How do we know it was definitely Daft Row and not Grrwood? Sorry guys, just like to be triple sure.
     
  28. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    We don't in all honesty. It's evidence afterwards that is the best indicator we can use.
     
  29. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    So although unlikely, it's not completely impossible Grrwood could have been The Tinker and Dom could still be evil right?
     
  30. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Hadn't considered that.

    EDIT: What Dom said.
     
  31. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Hmmm... not sure you understand what the Tinker's role is.

    I haven't started a campaign against anyone. It was Daft Row or me and I knew I was Good so had to defend myself. Cthulhu was then insistent I was Evil so had to defend myself again. I only thought he was Evil because he was so adamant I should be lynched!

    Starting to think that you might have something to hide, before I assumed you were just making mistakes. Now it seems like you are deliberately trying to mislead.
     
  32. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    No, Grrwood was called evil the same day as me being called good by the seer.
     
  33. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Don't forget that Opti (RIP) was the Seer yesterday and he said the Grrwood message was the Wolf's and thus didn't vote for him. He wouldn't have known that if Grrwood was the Tinker, so would have encouraged us all to vote for Grrwood and certainly wouldn't have voted otherwise himself.
     
  34. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    What if you are the wolf, sent a message clearing yourself and The Seer viewed Grrwood who was The Tinker?
     
  35. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Misdirection again.
     
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