Assombalonga to Peterborough

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Daft Row, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    You'd need broad shoulders for that Doug.
     
  2. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Hmmmm, think he should of been loaned out again personally but we have got first option if he turns out to be what we need in the future, £1.5 mill ish in the bank and a little bit less on the wage bill.
     
  3. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    My academy sources say that whilst they believe Assombalonga would probably rise to the same level as Theo Robinson, they view Mensah as a better talent. We either could take the money now with a buy back clause just in case (of course he would want to come to us, he clearly loves our club) or we could risk it, with him going on loan for the next few seasons. With the Pozzo's plan, more and more players would come in front of him and he would never get a game, especially if we get to the Premiership. To get 1.5-2million for a 5th choice forward was an offer far too good to refuse.
     
  4. 99mph

    99mph 4th Prediction league 2011/12

    Side note, why are so many fees 'undisclosed' now. Surely they have to report it eventually, as part of the FFP reports or end of year finances?
     
  5. Chewitt

    Chewitt Forum Extraordinaire

    Not at all, I'm not saying he should be playing week in week out but the lad is only 20 ffs and clearly has ability/potential which should have seen him in the squad this season at least or out on loan at a league one club to nurture said potential.

    Pretty simple, really.
     
  6. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player


    This makes sense to me. Unlike previous years, we have CHOSEN to sell rather than being FORCED to sell.

    The coaches will have assessed Britt for sure and evaluated his potential. They will have looked at whether he could be developed and sold for three or four times the couple of mill we've got from Peterboro.

    Obviously they've decided it's a no from them.

    We have to have confidence in that decision. They have enough experience of developing players.

    Good luck to Britt. I'm sure he'll be a star in the third division again, but doubt we'll ever see him play above championship level in the future.
     
  7. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    So you'd rather he gets sent out on loan and is allowed to leave for free at the end of the season? We're a business, remember.
     
  8. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    As others have said, I'm pretty relaxed about this as we have got decent money, an it would have been a tough ask for him to get in the team on any sort of regular basis.

    Best of luck Brit.
     
  9. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Well that one was a bolt out of the blue. I thought if he was going anywhere it'd have been on loan.

    Oh well, at least it's a decent sum, and the club have the buy-back clause in there too, just incase he continues to progress.

    Best of luck to Britt - I always liked his name and tracked his progress over the last few seasons when out on loan - hopefully we'll see him back in a Watford shirt in the PL one day... (May be overly optimistic on both ours and his development!)
     
  10. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

  11. Levon

    Levon Squad Player

    Accept £2m for him now or let him leave for free at the end of the season. Think about it.
     
  12. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    You always like to see one of your own play but trading Assombalonga for Ikpeazu + £1.1m is good business

    EDIT is 2m now. Bloody good business and good for Britt as he ll imrpove a lot faster playing every week. Good for everyone imo.
     
  13. Rugbyballs

    Rugbyballs Reservist

    On another thread we re ranting about how good Uche is. We ve just sold our 5th choice (arguably 7th) choice striker for nearly £2m !!
    It's never nice letting go of home grown talent and especially those who could improve so much, but we have to be honest. How much would be have played. .. personally I think Uche is going to feature a lot toward s the second half of the season. .. This is a good deal and a massive hand for the young lad.. the only negative is Peterboro is a sh!t hole
     
  14. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Ive heard this about Mensah too. If it werent for some injuries we might have seen more of him.

    He looked very sharp against Stevenage and scored last night
     
  15. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Weren't we also "reluctant" to sell Hogg for a profit?

    The Pozzos are sophisticated and experienced international investors in developing footballing talent. They're dealing with over-excited third division chairmen with a few million burning their fingers up with desire to spend.

    Easy meat I reckon.

    Yeah of course we were reluctant to sell. These guys are huge talent. We don' wanna sell but what we gonna do uh? You twist our arms up our back. You make us sell to you. There's two Z's in Pozzo on the cheque there.
     
  16. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    How many other clubs could see their 5th choice striker go for this amount. Good business.
     
  17. Layton

    Layton First Team

    This x 100
     
  18. Levon

    Levon Squad Player

    How many threads on other forums will pop up saying that all our English talent is getting pushed aside in favour of foreign mercenaries?
     
  19. iljordan

    iljordan Reservist

    One of those rare deals which sound like everybody leaves equally happy, good business on our part.

    The owners are trying to run the club in a sustainable manner so after all the signings this summer to be able to bring well over a £1m for an unproven squad player that many were talking about as going out on loan makes a lot of sense.
     
  20. Mighty Mo

    Mighty Mo Reservist

    Good luck to Britt. I hope he does well at The Posh.
     
  21. THT81

    THT81 Squad Player

    Chewitt, he wasn't ready this season, no way, so to say "shunted off in favour of some unkowns from Udinese" is laughable. 2m for a player who is 20/21, less of a prospect than Ikpeazu and Mensah, with a year left on his contract, AND with first refusal, by which time we'll (if all goes to plan) be in the Prem, so if he does prove to have potential to be a good PL striker, we can take up that option, and 5m ish will be comfortable for us, it's very shrewd business imo.

    He'll suit them very nicely and do well there I think, good luck to him.
     
  22. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Each player has a valuation set on him and if a club comes in and matches that valuation then it's considered. Zola gets asked whether the player is instrumental to his team and in this case he was only a fringe/development player. Basically all boxes are ticked in order to sell the player, so I can see why a deal was done. Watford get a significant transfer fee for a player that would not have featured too much this season.

    Peterborough have clearly paid over the odds to get him at this stage of his development, but are hoping he will be their next Dwight Gayle, which is entirely possible. Only time will tell if we've let a gem go, or we've been extremely shrewd, but the Pozzo's get more right then wrong so I back their judgement.

    The last two outgoing transfers have raised eyebrows but both have been reluctantly granted by the club for different reasons. Hogg so he can be close to his family and Britt because a club matched our valuation.

    Assombalonga may turn out to be a very good player that Palace blow £10m on in two years time, but that's the risk you take with this type of transfer. For now, £2m is a nice tide sum to help with any FFP issues further down the line, although I am personally sorry to see a talent like Assombalonga go.
     
  23. Watfordftw

    Watfordftw Reservist

    Not too happy with this but if it's 2 million it could be good business. However I trust the Pozzo's they've been doing it for years and they know exactly what they are doing.
     
  24. iljordan

    iljordan Reservist

    I don't disagree with your post but I could have sworn he signed a 5 yr deal at some point in last 12-18 months or so?
     
  25. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Nope. Signed a 1-year contract extension last summer I think, meaning it runs out in 2014.
     
  26. THT81

    THT81 Squad Player

    HB1, don't forget we have first refusal. If he turns out to be a gem, hopefully we can get him back.
     
  27. PaddingtonsYellowArmy

    PaddingtonsYellowArmy First Team Captain

    a thrid of the new East Stand £2m - it 's name can start with ASS

    brilliant busines - under previous owners it would have been £500k plus add ons and a percentage.. just to keep the club from admin..

    big small club to small big club in one year wow...
     
  28. sw17

    sw17 Academy Graduate

    FFP sanctions for failing to keep within your allowed losses do not kick in until next season ( presume this means the publishing of accounts relating to the 2014/15 season, so thats two years away.

    If we are in the Prem, then it hardly matters financially about whether we sell Britt or not, as the income there is massive & we get players from Pozzo's anyway. But I guess its a good start for the new financial year to have a bit of cash around to offset higher wages ( is our financial year just starting or just ending ? Not sure about that one.)
     
  29. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Here's my take.

    On one hand, we've received nearly £2m (if the reports are correct) for a player who has never even played at League 1 level. That is fantastic business. Though he had a good season last season, he is young and unproved and for us to get a deal like that is very good indeed. In terms of £ then, it's a great deal.

    On the other hand, we've let go a young lad who impressed in the lower tiers of the Football League. Reports were promising, and it seems he has a fair amount of potential. On top of this, he's come all the way through our academy and though he didn't have much of a shot at making an impact here this season in fairness, I did expect a loan move to a League 1 club, so you can understand my surprise at the sale.

    We did very, very well to get as much as we did for him, but I'm gutted we've lost a young, homegrown talent. I was genuinely looking forward to following his development this season. It's a good move for him in the meantime, and if it works out for him, Peterborough have signed a replacement for Gayle who cost nearly a quarter of the price! Peterborough overpaid for Assombalonga, but they can completely afford to because Palace threw that £8.5m like it was going out of fashion.

    I am happy we have first refusal though :)

    Best of luck to the lad, I will be following his season with much interest...
     
  30. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    not too bothered. good deal for all parties. i don't think he will ever be a world beater, but if he does turn out to be better than expected at least we have a chance to get him back.
     
  31. iljordan

    iljordan Reservist

    Ok, I stand corrected. With less than 12 months left on a contract of a player that won't feature every week and may go out on loan the deal was a no brainer
     
  32. jon_e_lee

    jon_e_lee Old Git!

    I think he came into the academy late and has only been with Watford a couple of years hasn't he?

    EDIT: Only been here since 2010, age 17:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britt_Assombalonga

    (I know, anyone can edit Dikipedia!)

    2nd EDIT: Player profile from WFC site:

    http://www.watfordfc.com/team/player-profile/index.aspx?playerid=466297&tcmuri=194650
     
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2013
  33. magic

    magic Statto & Vordamen's lovechild

    He needs to be playing football
    I was hoping that we would send him out on loan but in the end we have received a decent price for him.

    Also the inclusion of a buy back option is good foresight on the clubs behalf.

    Must've been a big decision for Brit to leave - Good Luck to him.

    Onwards and Upwards
    COYH
     
  34. oxhey67

    oxhey67 Squad Player

    Interview from sometime this morning regarding Peterborough signing Britt with a silent Barry Fry (surely the first time ever he's been kept quiet in an interview!?!) and chairman Darragh MacAnthony.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnZlcB_ESqo&feature=youtu.be&a

    No, I can't inbed it. Sorry.

    Meaningful or not but I see the news of the transfer on the official site has been pushed to one side by an interview with Uche Ikpeazu and how he loves to score goals.
     
  35. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    I think the accounts for this season 13/14 will have to be declared by December 2014, for sanctions in 2014/15. If we exceed £3m loss (or £8m loss if Pozzo buys £5m equity in club) then we will be fined the difference if we go up, or receive a transfer embargo (a proper one) if we stay down. So I think the Britt sale is important for FPP.
     

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