Unpopular Opinions

And goal average? What was wrong with that?

 

Ea Nassir's copper was never that bad and Nanni's servant was ill qualified to judge the consignment of ingots.

 

Who is Mr or Mrs Stormzy?

A popular singing artist?

 

I heard a song the other day. Absolute racket. Turned out it was one of his. Obviously we aren't his target audience, but it was unlistenable for me.

 

I know a chap who we recruited during the worst of the pandemic who was over 60. He just got another job at a competitor for a big pay rise. Maybe it's the sector we're in but a lot of us specialists are well into our 50's.

Edit: White bloke too.

 

Stormzy was good when he was making actual grime, but now he’s just making bland rubbish.

 

If this story is true, I have no respect for your friend. Have some cojones and do the right thing, not just gossip afterwards. What you are describing isn’t lawful and what’s his job as a manager for if he doesn’t make any actual choices? If he’s happy to cheat colleagues out of a promotion on the basis of their race or gender?

You may be right that some of this behaviour goes on. After all, many private sector companies used to promote exactly who they liked on the basis of chaps being one of the club, having the right accent and the right tie. So maybe they still do what they want. I can tell you that the public sector, while it makes lots of efforts to advance diversity and attract a wide field, still makes fair choices. And yet we have Private looking down on Public as if we don’t know what we are doing. It sounds like we are light years ahead.

But I just wonder whether people, who were used to see the workplace look one way cannot get used to it changing and are letting their prejudices run riot. The result is that female or minority advancement is always met with suspicion as if no one is ever really good enough and they must have had someone, somewhere fix it for them at the expense of some poor old middle class duffer.

 

It is extremely naive to think a lot of companies in the private sector don’t just do exactly what they want regardless of whatever the law is, the vast majority of the time they get away with it as well.

I worked at the same company as my ex business partner for a while, I left a while before him and he eventually got made redundant. It was between him and another much younger girl who kept their job. They just took him in a room one day and said we’re making you redundant and keeping her, despite him being significantly more experienced and a consistently better performer than her (it was a sales role and his numbers were always without fail much better than hers) he sought legal advice and they told to him to request a subject access request so he could see the scoring system they’d based the decision on. They couldn’t produce one because there wasn’t one, there is no actual legal scoring system that would’ve placed her ahead of him. They ended up having to give him a years wages so he didn’t sue them.

In another example, they made a pregnant woman redundant but simultaneously recruited somone for her exact same role in Amsterdam. She wouldn’t have taken the job in Amsterdam, but the point was legally they had to offer it to her and they didn’t, they just thought they could get rid of her while pregnant with no issues, again they had to pay her off.

I know it’s not exactly the same thing as being discussed, but it’s incredibly naive to think private sector business aren’t often run how the powers that be want them run, as opposed to what the law actually says.

 

This thread has really gone off piste.

 

A popular beat combo, m'lud.

 

That doesn’t make sense. Why would the company not promote anyone at all because of an objection to its lawbreaking? Why didn’t he get advice from HR? Why didn’t he speak to the whistleblowing charity, PROTECT?

I find it ironic you think I’m naive in this, when you present it as necessary to work with no personal red lines.

 

I acknowledged that above. I’m sure that’s true.

It’s not the same as wholesale disadvantage to middle aged, middle class men to the horrific degree that their wives are forced to find a job.

 

many posters, who work in the private sector, are telling you what the current work conditions are like across a huge amount of sectors

you, who work(Ed) in the public sector, choose not to believe that.

That’s your right…though you are wrong

 

yep people have forgotten that this may be individuals unpopular opinions

thank god I didn’t go with my number 2…which is all socialists are right farkin to£&ers

 

Our lead developer was female and by far the best we had. The pandemic hit and the dev team worked from home without a single issue. The pandemic ended and they were told to come back in. They asked why when they were more productive at home. The company didn't bend and she left. It was a disaster. Then they introduced flexi weeks for the dev team so only 2 days out of five that they needed to be in. The damage was done and we lost another 3 awesome developers.

Even now we're struggling to recruit the right people. Good old HR eh?

 

You’re laughable and unnecessarily offensive. As always.

 

My un/popular opinion is that most people that identify as something...ist are worth steering clear of.

 

I’ve started a politics section thread on the discrimination issue so we don’t derail this one any further. Fill your boots folk!

 

I can tell you a fact that it doesn't.
The importance of being able to tick boxes drives a great deal of senior management appointments in the public sector atm.
You are right that you cannot advertise that "only ethnic minorities should apply" for example, but there are ways around this to achieve what you want without breaking the law. For example "The ability to speak fluent hindi would be an advantage" is perfectly legal where a section of the local population is from that ethnic group and speaks limited english, whether or not that is truly required.
I've often managed the HR functions of organisations I've worked for. There was always a way to appoint who we wanted to appoint to a new role or make someone redundant that we wanted to remove. For example "sickness days" was a valid selector for redundancy. If it was a unique position, make the role redundant and then restate the role 3 months and one day later (if within 3 months you have to offer back to the staff you made redundant).

 

Take it to the politics section.

 

K9 v2.0, just after I told him there's no dislike button on the forum.

 

Yes I hadn't seen your post when I posted mine. I don't venture into the politics section, don't even know where it is, so fill your boots .

 

No wonder blokes like you are getting binned m8.

 

Thank you Mr Kremlin.
Is it time for elevenses?
Nanny will bring them I expect.

 

I think HR issues are actually very interesting and enjoy reading about other people's HR-related experiences

 

I like Gin, but I don’t think we need all the different types and once mixed with tonic you really can’t tell the difference between most of them.

Im talking about normal gin as opposed to flavoured ones obviously.

I could also extend that to IPAs, I really don’t think we need so many of them and a lot of them taste the same.

 

How about an ex colleague of mine who had a 30 minute meeting with HR to discuss a grievance and the person running it sang songs and spoke in German for 28 of those minutes?

 

Agreed. Gordons & Schweppes is fine.
IPAs are for man bun sporting, no socks and overly small trouser wearing weirdos that think Camden is cool.

 

Camden is a ********

 

Rather IPA than lager, shirley ?