Ismaila Sarr

Discussion in 'Former Players Archive' started by Burnsy, Jul 19, 2020.

  1. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Only Nigerians can edit FIFA according to some on the embargo thread.
     
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  2. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

  3. Pob

    Pob Reservist

    Yes but does that factor in the 761 million West African CFA francs that we've been paid due to his appearances for Senegal? When you take this into account Sarr is a bargain compared to Gray.
     
  4. Pob

    Pob Reservist

    I do try to see the positive and the best in people and I have always quite liked Sarr. However, that message just seems like a standard format player leaving message that is so over the top that i find it hard believe its sincerity He should have certainly tempered the bit about the amazing supports and their passion and cheers as no one is gonna believe that.
     
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  5. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Squad Player

    I’ve already thanked Richard Walker for his kind words
     
  6. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

  7. 3000

    3000 Reservist

    Glad to see the back of this shirker, sick to death of seeing him putting in 10% effort each week in a shirt every player should feel proud to wear. However he was very much mis-sold WFC, bought in at a time Duxbury was giving it the barry on talksport about how we are heading for the Champions League only to go down twice in 3 years either side of playing behind closed doors in the Championship. Must have been sh*te for anyone unlucky enough not to be sold.

    I don't have the highest hopes for Sarr in the rest of his career, he's too fragile minded to be a top player.
     
  8. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    If Adam Leventhal is to be believed, the deal is £9.5m + £7m add-ons + 15% sell-on clause.
     
  9. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Seems to change each day.

    I suspect an agent wrote that goodbye message.

    Seems very open for someone who appeared very shy.
     
  10. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    For posterity:

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    WE'RE IN THE MONNN-EEEYYY!!!
     
  11. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Business. Done. Properly.
     
  12. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    ******* hell I absentmindedly thought I'd clicked on the Kabasele thread, reading this almost gave me a heart attack!
     
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  13. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    My sources say it's 11.7m swiss francs up front with add ons totalling 3.5m bulgarian lev based on appearances and other criteria.
     
  14. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    And the half eaten toffee apple?
     
  15. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I know we have the ongoing joke about the exchange rates used, but if you look at the actual schedule of payments from that Fifa document, and what The Athletic/The club price them at in GBP, then it’s a bit weird:

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    The official (real) cost for the instalments was:
    €8m
    €8m
    €8m
    €6m
    €5m

    The Athletic/the club have it at:

    £6.6m
    £6.6m
    £6.6m
    £5m
    £4m

    Those are exchange rates of:

    1.2121
    1.2121
    1.2121
    1.21
    1.25

    At the time we bought Sarr the rate was 1.09, we hadn’t been near 1.20 since before the brexit vote 3 years prior, and we’ve barely got near those rates in the four years since, save for a couple of brief moments.

    We would obviously be paying Rennes in Euros as per the Fifa document, so it would be interesting to know how the club/the athletic arrive at the GBP cost. If you set aside the fact we buy and sell players in Euros, it would be impossible based on the timing.

    The only was it’s plausible is if we agreed the sale of a few players in Euros pre-brexit vote when the rate was 1.20 plus, but then received some of the instalments around when Sarr was bought at 1.09, so the club made an FX gain and are counting that towards the cost of the Euros to buy Sarr. I can’t be bothered to look up what Euro transfer income we might have been due around then, but given Sarr was our record transfer by quite some distance then it would seem unlikely we’d be able to benefit from such a fortuitous gain in FX conversions that somehow completely offset €35m of outgoing liability.

    It wouldn’t me if they just used a budget rate for FX (many companies do) to arrive at that figure, but the actually reality to the budget rate was almost certainly different and almost certainly worse.

    TL;DR: I don’t know what I bothered with all that because the Twitter imbeciles will still say he cost the club £22m. The reality is based on the actual exchange rate at the time he cost us at least £32m before any add ons and fines, so he really almost certainly did cost us at least £35m.
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2023
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  16. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I'm sure someone on here posted the breakdown of all the add-ons, some of which we met the conditions for, and some we didn't by virtue of spending time in the Championship and not progressing in the cups
     
  17. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Glad he's gone so I never have to read another comment saying that he more than paid for himself by playing quite well for a few months in the Championship once and helping us get promoted.
     
  18. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Exactly. If we had spent that £35m wisely in the first place, we would have avoided relegation.
     
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  19. ProfessorAbdi

    ProfessorAbdi First Year Pro

    Careful, he single-handedly got us promoted according to some on Twitter.
     
  20. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Well he was our most effective attacker outlet under Munoz certainly.

    Of course the defensive performances helped and Hughes being fit .
     
  21. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    The important thing is that, after all is said and done, we made a £1 profit on him.
     
  22. Ainzrocker

    Ainzrocker First Year Pro

    Is the €5m still owed to Rennes part of the external Macquarie debt? Or is that on top?
     
  23. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    But he more than paid for himself by playing quite well for a few months in the Championship once and helping us get promoted.:cool:
     
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  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Indeed. Priceless.
     
  25. J.B

    J.B First Team

    Our resident 'transfer expert' said the following on Twitter a couple of days ago so I'll be taking this with a pinch of salt:
     
  26. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    All money owed on transfers is on top of Macquarie debt. Duxbury never mentions it.
     
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  27. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    The constant flow of some saps making countless excuses for him after every poor performance last season has now turned into a flood of weird "I'm sorry we failed you, Isma. Go well xxx" posts on Twitter.
     
  28. Ainzrocker

    Ainzrocker First Year Pro

    Wonderful ‍♂️
     
  29. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Fanbase is full of freaks and weirdos sadly.
     
  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Lots of love on the Watford Observer site too.
     
  31. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    They must all be people who only watched the highlights and never went to live games.
     
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  32. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    30-second videos have become the predominant form of the medium on the internet these days, after all...
     
  33. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    My favourite comms with Sarr...


    "Hughes, just about kept that in, Deeney... good ball...."
    "Here goes Sarr sprinting into the open space..."
    "Past Loveran, past Van Dyke..."
    "ISMAILA SARRRRR!!"

    "Watford two to the good!!!"
    "Liverpool's unbeaten record under real threat now..."
    "What have they got? What have they got?"
     
  34. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Yes, very bizarre.
     
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  35. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Just got round to reading the responses to that official thread. Some of our fans are SO weird.

    “we failed you. Now you can shine!”

    “It’s been a tough ride. Please think well of us”

    How do these snivelling idiots deal with real life!!??
     
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