I,i,i,i,fwah, Fwah, Fwah It’s The Tories

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Who do you want as the next Tory party Leader

  1. Rishi Sunak

    7 vote(s)
    63.6%
  2. Lizz Truss

    4 vote(s)
    36.4%
  1. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

  2. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Et tu Gammonspoone?

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  3. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    It’s an illusion that well spoken Jeremy is some kind of liberal. He was in Government throughout the last decade and was an active participant in harsh measures of austerity like the bedroom tax. He gaslighted the nation over the NHS after the Tories went for useless top down reform and stagnation over investment (supported by him) by then pretending to be its champion.

    He would be a more difficult opponent for Starmer than Liz Truss who would be a National laughing stock within days. So no, definitely no thanks.
     
  4. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Tory MP for Bury South, Christian Wakeford, has defected to Labour just before PMQs. Has a majority of around 400 in what was traditionally a Labour seat.
     
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  5. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I meant he would be preferable for the country, not for the Labour Party.

    Would be interested in Mrs Moose's view of him as Health Secretary, especially given what has come since.
     
  6. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    If you think I hate the Tories you’ve not met Mrs Moose. I agree with James Naughtie was her only comment.

    This close to an election the only concern in this household is who is easiest to beat. A new Tory leader won’t be able to do much with regard to the NHS before the next election.
     
  7. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

  8. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It'll almost certainly be May 2024. That's eons in politics.
     
  9. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    I might even prefer Boris to Truss...
     
  10. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    True, but let’s see if that remains likely. The Fixed Term Parliament Act is essentially redundant. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bunter survives if he goes for one this year.

    But the fact remains that not much would be done with the NHS before the next election.
     
  11. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  12. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

  13. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Personally I find it amusing that the "Churchillian" (in his own deranged mind and print) de Pfeffel admitted to not recognising the quote...
     
  14. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    I am saying it is an official statement from the Government of Ghana that refers to stories in news papers.
     
  15. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    She must be really bad then, because he is a total and utter piece of dripping terd.

    Mind you, if I wanted the tories out of power, hunt would be someone I would want representing them during the campaign. So perhaps you are more of a genius than I gave you credit for.
     
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  16. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    My point exactly. Such a choice is like being asked which eye you would prefer to be gouged out.

    Sorry; forgot to link it back to my post saying I even prefer Boris to Truss....
     
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  17. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    But...

    As was implied in the newspaper articles to which Ghana, who made no mention of negotiations with the UK, were responding.
     
  18. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Apart from the Bill currently going through Parliament, you mean?

    I'm really not convinced fhat Boris wants to carry on being PM, frankly. It's more a question of whether anyone wants to pick up the poisoned chalice at present...
     
  19. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Christian Wakeford’s defection to Labour has a silver lining for Boris. That’s one less letter to the 1922 Committee.
     
  20. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    He probably doesn't. He's never been a hard worker (or even a worker) so it was likely never about anything more than the title to him, and now that's old hat.
     
  21. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Plus he's in debt...
     
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  22. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Dunno. He may not want to go but shirley the office he holds offers some protection against all those 'stories' (the most tame ones are sexual in nature) the press can't mention? Also de Pfeffel's 'skill set' (sic) isn't going to have future employers queuing at his door after he leaves office?
     
  23. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Oh come on, surely he could make millions doing some sort of consultancy work a la Cameron. Those sort of people don't seem very picky. How about an international spokesperson for Peppa Pig plc?

    I take the first point though.
     
  24. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    You have access to Journal's - perhaps you could post a copy of the situations vacant section of The Journal of Indolent Bullh$itters to gauge what his options are? He's a busted flush in Diplomatic/Political circles, his publishers have been burned (twice, once for the non-existent Shakespeare biography and twice for the Churchill book), his past employers have turned on him (Telegraph and Speccy) and his 'little black book' is worthless, containing a list of slappers (apols), to big business.

    At least Cameron had cultivated something in his LBB until he was 'dobbed' in (and de Pfeffel's fingerprints are rumoured to be all over this)...
     
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  25. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    There's always TV presenting...
     
  26. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    I'm sure de Pfeffel's advertising gold, public service broadcastings 'out' so that leaves "The de Pfeffel and Färager Show" on GBN (Gammon Broadcast News)...
     
  27. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    And speaking tours.

    I think you underestimate how much public demand there might be for an ex-UK PM, even an incompetent one.
     
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  28. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    This is an almost exact parallel with the combined opposition's Brexit mishegas, when a virtue signalling tory crossed the house at the most dramatic moment he could possibly have chosen. He didn't get re-elected, and I wouldn't automatically expect Wakeford to get re-elected.

    People believed Johnson would end up the shortest serving PM of all time, and that Brexit could be stopped, with the same rabid euphoria that is going around now.
     
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  29. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    He could be a guest on Would I, I, I, fwah, fwah, fwah, lie to you?

    #WIIIFFFLTY
     
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  30. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Big thank you to all the lefties out their for supporting the righties in pressuring Boris to drop the mask mandate. Not sure they could have done it without you.

    Thanks.
     
  31. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    Reason to dislike the Tory party no.657: Being without a moral compass isn't enough for them to oust their leader. It's only when they think they'll lose their own seats do the knives come out.
     
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  32. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    It's what the Tories do best: farkin' each other over. At the moment we're very much in the pre-Nacht der langen Messer stage as there are no 'sides': there are just a disorganised and disparate group of anti-de Pfeffel MPs made up of the 2019 intake, remainers, arch-Brexiteers, old-school Tories (for whom party loyalty is everything), people who've loathed de Pfeffel from day one and people who've recently been farked over by de Pfeffel. Once a dominant faction arises amongst them (with a leader*) he'll be toast.

    *Incidently, I always reckoned this would by my MP Oliver Dowden. But since he's 'drunk the kool aid' to get a seat at the top table, he'll now end up as collateral damage.
     
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  33. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Can’t say I’m impressed with Christian Wakeford. While Starmer could hardly refuse the open goal, it doesn’t seem right that an MP can simply swap parties of very different ideologies for each other. Better to become an independent or stand down.

    He’s stood enthusiastically for a party that has thrown a culture war at Labour of idiotic taunts of ‘woke’ to the lightest of liberal consciences, has been hostile to our neighbours and to refugees, trashed our rivers and seas to protect profits and exploited naked nationalism at every turn. He’s not a fit for Labour just because he isn’t a fit for Johnson’s Tories.
     
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  34. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    402 seat majority?
     
  35. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Yeah. Looking at the last twenty years of Labour leaders compared to the tories, and this post suddenly appears to become a genius piece of irony.
     
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