Euro 2016

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by nornironhorn, Mar 29, 2015.

  1. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Lingard just called up to your squad.

    Is that genuinely down to a lack of english talent or is it simply the 'big club' factor again?
     
  2. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    He's played, what, three games for Man Utd this season? What do you think it is? Lingard isn't Messi, so why is he called up ahead of Ward-Prowse?

    His club manager said he wasn't ready to play for England - in fact he even laughed at the question.

    Roy knows better though. He's a disgrace, his squad selections are a disgrace and I will happily cheer when we go out in the group stages and he ****ing quits having taken the team no further than when he started.

    Easy ****ing retirement fund money for the clown.
     
  3. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Probably because he scored a good goal the other week...

    Somebody made a good point elsewhere - is this an example of why our youngsters don't really progress.

    They have one or two good games then get called up which probably means they feel they've made it.
     
  4. JH93

    JH93 Squad Player

    Hopefully Lingard won't actually play and he's only in the squad to make up numbers and provide an emergency option off the bench, in case of injuries.

    Somehow I doubt it.

    Hodgson seems to have listened to those who criticised previous managers for not giving youth enough of a chance. It's a shame that he's implemented it terribly and brought in players far before they're ready. Lallana, Barkley, Delph, Shelvey, Alli and Dier were all already in the squad - why put a huge amount of extra pressure on Lingard when it's not needed? Saying that, I'd actually say the same about Alli and Dier, but at least they've been consistent through the first three months of this season and there are several injuries.

    I'd prefer to see a safe option like Tom Cleverley brought back in, or Mark Noble who should be in anyway, or even Charlie Austin as a third striker.
     
  5. J.B

    J.B First Team

    Would love for Hodgson to explain how Lingard is worthy of a place in the squad over someone like Deeney.
     
  6. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    'If he's good enough to play two games for Man Utd, then he's good enough for the England team'.
     
  7. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    My Nan is good enough for the England team at the moment.
     
  8. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    It's going to be an unreal atmosphere on Tuesday, and I would think no kind of match for anyone to play in, especially a debutant.
     
  9. JH93

    JH93 Squad Player

    Not a huge amount of pressure in a footballing sense, I suppose - even if England lose, I can't imagine more than a select few would see it as more important than Friday's events. Still a terrifying prospect for any of the players involved.

     
  10. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Looks like the Irish have qualified, would love to get them in our group now

    EDIT: They've just qualified, hopefully James McClean breaks his leg on the last game of the season now
     
    Last edited: Nov 16, 2015
  11. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    They are in Pot 4 like you guys so that cannot happen.

    One of you 3 will get England!
     
  12. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Ah right, for some reason I thought they were in pot 3.

    Probably for the best as it would probably end in some sort of trouble if we did play so better not playing them in that sense
     
  13. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Well done the Republic.
     
  14. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Any reason for the dislike?
     
  15. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Was half hoping that the Irish wouldn't qualify. It'd serve them right due to the amount of turncoat Northern Irishmen in their team that turned their backs on their country.
     
  16. JH93

    JH93 Squad Player

    The Scots are going to have a great summer!
     
  17. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    In their defence, there isn't too many of them, they are targeting the youth players from a Catholic background. What actually happens is that a lot switch to ROI and then their careers go down hill a bit, i.e Eunan O'Kane (although he is in the PL now, so maybe playing for ROI?) and Rory Donnelly. Wouldn't mind as much if they didn't come through our youth system and take the place of someone who wanted to play for NI. Then there is the strange case of Shane Ferguson who switched to ROI and has now come back and is doing well for us, albeit as a back up player.

    I don't see why the players do defect to the ROI, Windsor Park now has a large portion of Catholics who attend games and our manager and plenty of players are Catholic (McGinn, McCourt, Clingan, Ferguson, Boyce, Lavery). The players who defect act like they have been forced to which has a knock on effect on the younger Catholics coming through.

    Some of our best players through the years have been Catholic too: Pat Jennings (most caps), Pat Rice, Gerry Armstrong, Martin O'Neill, Mal Donaghy, etc.
     
  18. Irishorn

    Irishorn Gael Force

    The pity is that there is a need to categorise the players according to their religious backgrounds. Some day there may be a nothern irish team made up entirely of atheists (the common enemy). What to do then?
     
  19. WatfordÉire

    WatfordÉire Squad Player

    I wonder is it Tenerife or Ibiza next summer for Jack Grealish?
     
  20. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Listening to the players being interviewed last night, most of them sounded more like an England team, as a lot of them had English accents! I expect a lot are like me, born and bred in England with Irish parentage or even Grand Parents!
     
  21. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I have no idea what you mean? Northern Irish fans no longer view players by religion and haven't for a long time. There was a large backlash at the Belfast Telegraph recently as they ran a story on Michael O'Neill being a Catholic. Any player from any background would be supported by NI
     
  22. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    And yet you're able to identify which are which!
     
  23. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

  24. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    I've never wanted England to win anything since that John Barnes turned his back on Jamaica.
     
  25. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    The Republic of Ireland isn't technically a 'home nation' is it?
     
  26. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Today they are.
     
  27. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    According to the map the Isle of Wight didn't qualify!
     
  28. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Didn't you hear about their independence claim?
     
  29. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Good point! Although you can tell from the areas players are from, i.e Sammy Clingan had a song and one of the lines were 'He's from the falls' and thats a very Catholic area. Some of the others are easily identified by name, such as Michael O'Neill and Caolan Lavery. And McGinn and McCourt used to play for Celtic so that's a given.

    Its quite different here to England, a lot of the time you can tell someone's religion from name, where they live, accent and even what they wear! (And what sports they play).

    Although NI fans will know the religion/background of players, they wouldn't judge them on that anymore
     
  30. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    3 dislikes and not one explanation why..
     
  31. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Dele Ali might have given himself half a chance of being called up..
     
  32. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Ridiculous comparison.

    Barnes never came through Jamaica's youth teams, so it's not like any money they spent on his development went to waste. England and Jamaica are also not arch-rivals.
     
  33. Hornet23

    Hornet23 First Team

    Prodl came off injured after a couple of minutes tonight. Belk on the bench against Utd then!
     
  34. J.B

    J.B First Team

    You wished a potentially career-ending injury on someone.

    Surely you can work that out?
     
  35. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    A leg break? I was hoping he would miss the Euros...

    In saying that I wouldn't be disappointed at all if his career did end, its not as if he'd be stuck financially or anything. Can't stand the man.

    Didn't a lot of WFC fans laugh when Savage broke his leg against us?
     

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