BBC stating Dyche sacked

No, 'The Watford Way'

Excel at innovation, youth development and community interaction - like we did when we finished 2nd in the league.

 

I don't think these are very good examples as they have talent and technical ability. Zola being a high class player in his time will quickly realise that Hodson, Murray and Buaben can be developed. Hodson I think will get played more than he did under Dyche who didn't seem to rate him. The ones that need to worry are the likes of Garner, Yeates, ****inson and Doyley who are limited in terms of skill. Eustace I think will be ok for a while as Zola will need a leader on the pitch.

 

Agree with you there, the only way we were going to make any progress on and off the pitch as a club was with new owners/investment and with that comes change and sometimes a change of manager, it's part of the deal i'm afraid. I understand some people's concerns but feel the points being made about academy products being abondoned and youth not beng given a chance are unfounded. The new owners have already stated how they are impressed with our academy/youth system so i've no doubt this will be at the forefront of their vision for the club.

Sure it's all a bit harsh on Dyche and his team but he can leave with his head held high over what he's achieved after being written off by so many (myself included) and guiding us to a top half finish with a seemingly incompetent boss and very limited resources. Credit where it's due and i'm sure he'll go on to get himself another job, probably at our level and should he return with another club at some point he'll be getting a very warm welcome which would be very well deserved.

As for Zola i'm sitting on the fence, i'm concerned about how much knowledge he really has of our level and his transfer record isn't exactly a glimmering part of his CV. However it is kind of exciting having such a name involved with our small club and the potential money being spent which let's face it we've not had the funds to do on a competitive basis for quite some time.

It's easy to make judgements right now but i feel it's got to be a case of wait and see on all from boardroom to pitch level. Roll on August.

 

It's not dis-loyalty from the Pozzos, it's dis-loyal our own supporters being more than happy to bin a long serving club servant at the drop of a hat. Dyche turned down a cushy and better paid job at Cardiff to stay with us.

 

Well, it wasn't as if we had a load of new signings who were much better lined up that were tapped up and taken by our previous manager with him to his new job along with all the backroom staff leaving little or no time to plan new signings and get some quality through the door was it?

 

Good reply, thanks.

As it happens I think the Pozzozs have done exactly right thing for their business. But then that's part of the issue for me - the 'business', not the 'club'.

 

I think most people understand the situation and feel for Dyche but at the same time look forward to a new begining. The alternative is we can all mope around moaning about the new owners and not give backing to Zola. Fans aren't being dis-loyal, just realistic about the situation.

 

F**k me, pretty sure some people will only be happy if we're touching on a top 10 finish and no more.

 

Poignant? To me it seems like very clever politics from a man who could see what was coming and had nothing to lose and everything to gain by making such a statement. Fair play to him as it seems to have worked - you're not the first person to reference it in the last couple of days hm!

 

Spot on, he saw it coming.

 

Haha, the overreaction to this on here is absolutely hilarious, all because we've replaced a manager that did well for us for two thirds of a single season. Sean Dyche is not bigger than the f**king club and Sean Dyche is not the super powered manager some of you idiots are making him out to be. The Pozzo's have spent a lot of money on taking over and securing the safety of this club, and if they want to pick their own man to take the club forward they are well within their right to do that.

Why don't some of you f**k of and become full time Dyche fans, rather than Watford? Because some on here seem more interested in Dyche and his well being than this club. It's pathetic.

 

Once again Nath you have missed the point by 17 miles.

 

If you think the supporters on here are 'more than happy' to get rid of Dyche, you clearly haven't read my post and others like it properly.

 

I would like to respond to a fellow newcomer.

I do not doubt the sincerity of your current strong feelings, however, I think it would be in your own best interest to reconsider the position. We are now in a potentially very comfortable place financially. It is my view that this will not be a similar situation to other clubs who acquire a rich short term sugar daddy who wishes to have a play thing for a while and then throw it away when he gets bored, or worse, a fanancial saviour coming to a club without any real financial backing. I believe that the new owners have looked at the club carefully and realised that with its location, potential fan base and academy, they can move the club to a higher level in a considered and planned way. They have a decent track record in this regard.

As for Sean Dtche, I have mentioned this on a number of other threads. He has completed a very sucessful if unspectacular stint at the club. We should always be grateful to him. With another manager during this period, we could be in deep trouble. He will no doubt have agreed a severance package and will now be a free agent to negotiate with a new club, with an impressive CV. Its up to him to prove into the future that he is worthy of earning a salary that most people can only dream of. Good luck to him.

I remember the pride and joy I felt when Watford were successful in the 80s. That was a different time. I agree with you that, never again will a small town team with limited resources be challenging for the top tier title and competing well in European competitions. Watford can, however, aspire to make progress by maximising what they have. It appears, although I cannot be certain, that the club may be debt free after the takeover. This is a good starting point and provides some certainty as to the clubs long term future. Fans from other clubs would bite our hands off to be in such a position.

If the new plan does not achieve consistent premiership status, so be it. Relax and enjoy the ride.

 

In house fighting,its like we've signed Kerry Dixon again!!

 

Please do elaborate, or are you only ever capable of the same old, short, smart arsed comments?

 

I think you've totally missed the point actually. Whilst there is absolutely no relationship to speak of between the Pozzos and Dyche there is between us and Dyche, and after the furore of last summer many of us are disappointed to see our club behave in a similar (but not as bad) manner. I think it's probably even fair to say that Dyche wasn't even sacked but rather that his contract hasn't been extended as it is unlikely that we would have done that under a transfer embargo. I actually completely agree with what Cheeky posted earlier but I am extremely disppointed to see the football club I support behave in a way that I don't feel is right.

 

Maybe he did, but he made the comments when he was being touted for the Brum and Forest jobs.

Of course he wouldn`t be the first of us to `play` a new employer for the potential redundancy payment I have a chum that worked it four times (only twice for me) who reckoned it enabled him to have a ten year sabatical - so jolly good luck to him.

 

I think he'd probably rather be smart-arsed than dumb-arsed. :sign13:

 

So because some fans hold Dyche in such ridiculously, unjustified, high esteem, the Pozzo's should have stuck with a manager who they, as the new owners of the football club, didn't believe was the man to take the club forward and do the job they wanted?

 

I agree with everything that Nascot has said in this thread. I just can't be arsed to quote all the posts.

 

That one was not aimed at you, or any particular individual, but read back on the todays threads and tell me that there has been any more loyalty towards Dychie from our supporters than Malky or Lee Cook showed to us. What there has been is wholesale vilification of people showing concern about the current situation as if there is no issue.

 

I personally feel he should have been given the chance at least after leading the team to their best finish in 11 years, I wasn't aware the majority of fans were so unhappy with the job he was doing?

 

But by whom? He himself claimed agents had sounded him about about the Birmingham and Hull jobs. I'm sure they did, along with 30-40 other managers in England and elsewhere in Europe. It's all part of the long listing process that these clubs go through. Other than that I can't recall reading anything linking him seriously with those jobs.

Anyway, it's immaterial. I'm sure when the official word is put out he'll have left 'by mutual agreement' and that'll be that.

 

No, its because many Watford fans now look like this:



It seems many fans are now being as disrespectful to Dyche as they possibly can, despite him effectively saving our club by doing an impossible job impossibly well. What he did last season is already being forgotten by a load of fans who have stuck their own head so far up their own arse in the space of a few days that can barely see.

All of a sudden its 'I couldn't give a **** about Dyche, we are now bigger than Dyche, Zola is taking us to the next level, Dyche is too small fry'.

Its making me gag a little bit to be honest. Its all about gratitude and loyalty for Watford fans until the shoe is on the other foot. Managers are all ***** when they leave for more money and better jobs on here, yet when our club shows the very same lack of loyalty and respect half of the people on here have whinged about for about five years its 'just football'.

As a vague guess based on this forum, about 70% of Watford fans are complete hypocrites.

 

Finally, a decent post.A few on here need to get over it. Dyche comes across as a top top man in the media,radio etc and may well be outside of work too,who knows?. We have been bought out and should be secure now. Shoe on the other foot,would Dyche have jumped ship to go and manage say Fulham on three times the wage he got here?probably would have done in my eyes.He may be missed,but turn the clock back to the start of last season and 70+% would have replaced him im sure off.

 

Whereas you are only ever capable of posts filled with anger and demanding that someone somewhere is sacked.

You have missed the point as you fail to see that what the main concern for people is isn't that Dyche will not be manager anymore. With the takeover and Zola we will probably finish higher in the table than we did with Dyche due the funding and new players that we will have.

What is really upsetting people is that a good man who has been a loyal servant to this club has been sacked in the most undignified way after doing a great job as a player, captain and a manager. He has done much better than Malky and Rodgers did in their time here with considerably less resources and quality in the squad. But then you probably didn't rate those other managers either. What has happened to Dyche is completely out of order and goes against everything that Watford has stood for for the majority of it's history. If the treatment of Dyche is a sign of things which are to come under the Pozzos then the club will become the complete opposite to what most of us have supported and watched all of our lives albeit more successful. However, if this sort of attitude and conduct is the price of success then they can keep it.

Every other fan of every club, a high amount of former players and prominent members of the media have seen the way that we have treated Dyche and called it as it is; disrespectful and unfair. Let's not pretend that if this happened to another club and was a thread in 'Other Football' we wouldn't be saying the exact same thing.

 

But what some/most of the fans feel about Dyche in this case is irrelevant. What kind of job could Dyche really do under owners who clearly didn't want him there and didn't think, all things considered, he's the right man for the job? Do you, or anyone else, really think that's going to be good for the club?

The Pozzo's haven't just sacked Dyche on a whim, they will be very aware of what the fans think and how we did last season. They will have their reasons.

 

Genius Potguy. :sign15:

 

Try reading the first three words again, "I personally feel...", like most of the others who "feel" the same way I always hoped we were better than this.

 

So basically, any Watford fan that isn't up in arms over the sacking of our manager is going to be tarred with a 'billy big *******s' brush?

Hardly fair as most of the fans I read on here with that opinion have pretty much said the same thing. I hoped Dyche would get a chance but he hasn't because the guys that saved our club want to run it their own way. So be it.

Getting behind a grand vision of a new owner after years of neglect isn't being arrogant at all.

 

Anyway can the Pozzos make any changes yet before the Football League approves the takeover?

 

It is sad that Dyche isn't getting the chance to show what he can do under this new regime.
However football is a business now and unfortunately there is just no loyalty any more and I believe that as some have already said Dyche was being quite cute with his 'loyalty works both ways' comment.

Just over a week a ago when Bassini released the statement that the takeover had collapsed I can remember how gutted that me feel as I knew this was the best way to secure the immediate future and of my football club, with the offer of a chance of seeing a little glory along the way.

Now Dyche has supposedly gone yes I'm gutted for him but at the same time I'm still excited for us supporters as to what could be coming our way, I guess we'll just have to hold tight and see!

That's not too much different from all my other years as a Watford supporter.

 

I think some people have missed the whole point here.

Anyone remember Kenny Jackett and co getting booted out in favour of an italian and his inflated ego/backroom staff? This is what we don't like at WFC, if we hide behind such weak arguments such as "but it's a business", don't be suprised if the soul gets taken away from this club. If you don't care about the soul of the club then go ahead accept that we should cast aside some of the good people that make the club what it is. I really don't think this sets the Pozzos off to an encouraging start and is maybe the reson GT got out quick sharp.

PS I don't think the soul will be taken away, just the heart, and maybe one lung.

 

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