Relegation watch

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by IRB, Dec 12, 2017.

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Are we going to get relegated?

Poll closed May 24, 2018.
  1. No

    87 vote(s)
    79.8%
  2. Yes

    22 vote(s)
    20.2%
  1. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Oh God...
     
  2. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Reo-Coker “Southampton are in a great moment”.

    That phrase irritates me more than it should.
     
  3. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Welbeck is so utterly useless.
     
  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Southampton fans will be probably wondering where this performance has been all season.

    Missed Charlie Austin I guess .
     
  5. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    3-2 Welbeck. He’s still useless mind. :)
     
  6. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    2 goals and an assist tbf

    MOTM stuff
     
  7. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    I think that's us safe now. Crawling across the line again... but a 4th consecutive season in the top flight.
     
  8. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    9 point gap maintained so yesterday didn't matter after all. 35/36 points will keep you up this year, same as last season.
     
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  9. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    I felt sorry for Southampton.
    They may well escape if they continue to play as they did today,although their fixtures are not favourable.
    Jack Wilshire is a thoroughly obnoxious little tic.
     
  10. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    They were close to getting a decent result today. Their next game is Chelsea at home, so hopefully that will be another loss. I don't write off Southampton yet though. They have something about them and I think they'll get out of trouble by the skin of their teeth.
     
  11. I simply can't see them overtaking us - they need 10 points from their final 6 games to do that, and hope that we lose our final 5.

    We might well not win another point, but I simply can't see them getting 10.
    Chelsea and Man City at home - zero points, Bournemouth at home - 1 point, possibly 3
    Leicester, Everton and Swansea away - 3 points, possibly 4.

    Which leaves us with Stoke to worry about - although I'm not sure that worry applies. They need 11 points
    Burnley and Palace at home - I'd be generous saying 2 points, but suspect zero
    West Ham, Liverpool and Swansea away - 3 if they're lucky.

    Mind you, I'm a hopeless tipster...:(
     
  12. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I have a feeling Southampton will beat Chelsea next week. Nonetheless, if we avoid defeat at Huddersfield I think that gets us over the line.
     
  13. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player


    I think Huddersfield will beat us soundly unfortunately. 2 or 3 nil.

    We won't win another point and will finish 17th I reckon.
     
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  14. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    My thoughts exactly at the moment. Feels like the end of last season all over again.
     
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  15. W4BS

    W4BS First Year Pro

    We will be fine. I think the difference to last season is that although our defending is league two standard at best, the rest of our play has generally been pretty good. Liverpool away aside, we have been competitive in all of our recent matches. Even Arsenal away was not as bad as the scoreline suggests, and we were much the better side against Bournemouth, and Burnley, crappy defending not withstanding. I think we will get a point at least against Huddersfield, and then do well against Palace, and Newcastle.
     
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  16. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    They won’t need 10 points, only 9, because if we lose all 5, their goal difference will almost certainly be better than ours.

    Worrying times.
     
  17. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Imagine needing points on the last day against United
     
  18. HELGO

    HELGO Reservist

    Gooooa
    I’ll accept that now. Showing some consistency in finishing above 18th
     
  19. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Please just no....
     
  20. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    We might as well go down. We deserve to be relegated as we are totally horrendous. At least in the championship most of the fans on this forum would be happy.
     
  21. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    ....until it becomes clear we won't make the top 6 and we appoint Pardew.
     
  22. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Does anyone really think Stoke are going to get 4 wins from their last 5 games?
     
  23. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    I think the European places are beyond us now, but you never know
     
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  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Lose at HTFC and then against CP and they will only be 2 and 3 points behind respectively.
    In fact if CP beat Brighton next week when we play HTFC they would go above us if they beat us.
    I wouldn't want to rely on Soton not reaching 37 points given they have a game in hand and still have Leicester, Bmuff, Swansea and Everton to play.
     
  25. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

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  26. Bore

    Bore Reservist

    Watching Southampton reminds me how weak we are upfront. No matter what team weplay they always seem to have better options upfront.

    We will limp home this year but that is only because of our midfield. Upfront and defensively we are no better than West Brom and not even sure that is fair on them
     
  27. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Can see how the rest of the season is going to go:

    HTFC 2-1 goal from midfield for us. Useless defending lets Mounie in
    Palace 3-0 to them. Midfield fail to score against an average palace Zaha scores a brace
    Spurs 3 or 4 -0 No chance
    Newcastle they scrap a 1-0 win and defend like their life depends on it
    MU 1-4 midfield score. Utd walk through us like we aren't there for their goals
     
  28. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Southampton have won 5 games all season, mate. What have you seen that makes you think they're going to win at least 3 of their last 6?
     
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  29. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I don't think it's 50/50 but it's certainly not impossible. They have Austin back, played well and had more shots and shots on target than arsenal at the Emirates yesterday. You think its impossible they could beat swansea, Bmuff, and one of everton or Leicester ?
     
  30. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I expect so, but they're out on day release at the moment so I can't be sure.
     
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  31. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Not impossible, but highly improbable.
     
  32. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Unlikely but possible.
     
  33. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    Think you might not understand how the maths works exactly.

    In order for us to go down the 5 teams currently sitting between us & Southampton also need to win 50% of their remaining games (also assuming S'ton do win those games you mentioned) in order for them all to leap frog us & put us down into 18th & that's also assuming we don't pick up any more points. Most of those 5 teams on paper have harder run ins too. The odds on that must be like Leicester winning the league again. Should even by mathematically safe by the Man U if not CP fixture.

    35/36 points will keep you in the PL this season, which is exactly the same as the last two seasons.
     
  34. J.B

    J.B First Team

    Ah good, the annual illogical bedwetting from people who don't seem to understand either football or mathematics is upon us.
     
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  35. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I think I understand it a bit better than you given its my job !
    So you understand maths do you ? Please explain, with 6 games to play, why the 5 teams below us all need to win 50% of their games when BHA, WHU and Swansea are 2, 3 and 5 points behind us respectively ? Likewise in the scenario I've described, if HTFC and CP beat us they would only be 2 and 3 points behind us !

    It does amaze me how people on this forum don't understand maths and probability. For them it has to be black or white. We have to be either "safe" or "going down". It's obviously UNLIKELY we will be relegated. 35/36 MAY be enough to keep us up but you think it's already 100% cut and dried, a matter of fact do you ?? 0% ? Fancy putting your house on it ?
     
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