DAY 3 - Werewolf 2018

Discussion in 'Werewolf: The forum game' started by Otter, Jun 6, 2018.

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Day 3 Lynching

Poll closed Jun 6, 2018.
  1. Cassetti's Beard

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  2. domthehornet

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  3. HappyHornet24

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  4. Harrow Orn

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  5. Meh

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  6. miked2006

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  7. nornironhorn

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  8. NorwayHornet

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  9. Optimistichornet

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  10. Phillipine Orn

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  11. PowerJugs

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  12. Squibba

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  13. steve harrow

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  14. wfcmoog

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  15. With A Smile

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  1. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    I personally don't think Moog is Evil. The rationale behind his voting has been identical to mine, and I agree with each vote he made.
     
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  2. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Do we know how many villagers/good and evil there is for this game?
     
  3. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    You’re jumping to conclusions which is quite unusual for you.

    However your latter paragraph should be true.

    If you’re good, your days unfortunately will be numbered.

    If you’re evil and an accidental guardian pick, then it will become suspicious if you live on as people will ask why you haven’t been taken out.
     
  4. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Sorry, that makes no sense to me at all. In fact, the more I read and try to digest it, the more jibberish it becomes.
     
  5. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Or, if I'm good, you've just given the wolves a good reason to keep me alive so I'm under suspicion?!
     
  6. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    That worked well for SLB!!
     
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  7. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    I think todays message is so close to days 1and 2 first messages ,thats its a fake ,the fact it has been noted that wolfie was getting a bit tardy with messaging he has jumped straight in this morning with a rather classy fake.
     
  8. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    The only thing that has muddied the water is the scenario in the write-up which seems to suggest there is now an extra player on team evil. This may mean that everything we knew to be true re good players can no longer be relied on. Before this, we knew after Daft Row was proven good that:
    Day 1: Message 1 was from Seer - Norway viewed as Good
    Day 2: Message 1 was from Seer - Daft Row viewed as Good; Meh! assumed to be harlot, so Good
    Day 3: ? One message so far received claiming Moog is Evil.
     
  9. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I'm confused - if you are on team good then surely that's a good thing??

    I'm glad you're being more active this morning HH, you usually have some astute insights.
     
  10. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    I'm inclined to think no one has been turned and there are still only 2 wolves and a traitor. The write up just doesn't scream transformation, but that both roles just identified each other.

    I'm therefore assuming the 2 I've stayed with are still both good.
     
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  11. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    But the fact the second message is taking so long isn't helping support this. If the second is the seer then again they are not helping us.
     
  12. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    It can't be Meh who's turned evil as he was at your house right? So either way Meh! is the only definite good in the game at the moment.
     
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  13. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Ha! Well I love this game, although it drives me crazy and has me doubting my judgement constantly, so of course I want to stay in. And, yes, I'm good so will be an asset (I hope), if allowed to survive.
    Don't think I was jumping to too many conclusions earlier:
    Fact - we have two wolves (2 attempted kills on Day 1)
    Fact - only one kill last night
    Fact - the second wolf appeared to visit a villager, who then licked wolf's blood
    Not too much of a jump to think a villager has been "turned" in some way; what we don't know for sure is whether they know each other's identities.
     
  14. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    I am pretty convinced Moog is evil. Happy to fall on my sword and get lynched tomorrow if I am wrong. I am that confident.

    If I was the seer I would:

    1. Post my anon message early.

    And 2. If beaten by the wolf to posting the anonymous message, quickly follow it up with one of my own to try and refute the wolfs message.

    As number 2 hasn't happened I strongly believe the seer has picked option 1 and got there before the wolf has.
     
  15. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Agree. I think it is most likely that wolf 2 went to kill the person with the unknown role. The power of this role turned the kill into a exchanging of identification; hence no kill and both roles now knowing each other.

    If a wolf emerged, I think Otter would have been more descriptive about the transformation, as other mods have been during Full Moons.
     
  16. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    If your assuming that then you have to assume I am good as well No?
     
  17. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    No. Meh! wasn't at my house - the Guardian was at my house. This means that it can't have been me who was visited by the second wolf. But, as PO rightly said, the guardian protecting me doesn't prove I am good.
     
  18. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Agreed the explanation is too ambiguous to be a turning.
     
  19. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Yep.

    Plus 2 others.
     
  20. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Actually this is a very good theory from you and Meh! In which case, it still advantages team evil as there are now two who know each others' identities.
    I am off out now so won't be on for a couple of hours. Hopefully, there will be a second message when I get back. But, for now, I'm in the same camp as Harrow Orn - I don't see what the Seer has to gain by not posting, especially when everyone said yesterday it was unhelpful waiting so long for messages. So I am inclined to think, for now, that the message we have received is from the Seer and that Moog is evil.
     
  21. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    But what else has Moog done that suggests he is evil?

    If you give me more evidence I could be persuaded.
     
  22. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I think people are getting distracted with their postulating.

    Norway and Meh are known good, but for some bizarre twist that we've all missed.

    I'd be wary of people trying to throw any shade at either of them, or doubt, however subtle.
     
  23. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    By the same logic, what does the wolf have to gain by not posting and automatically rebutting the message? If I was evil, either I would protect myself with a fantastically confusing message in immediate response to the first, or I'd damn well hope that my fellow evil player would do so.

    The fact that I've no allies in the messages, is my only defence at this stage.
     
  24. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    He has effectively questioned everything anyone has said under the premise of trying to solve the game. But not once has he given us his thoughts on who might actually be evil? Stinks of trying to look busy and villager like without trying to upset anyone. Classic wolf trait which I have caught you on before Mike.

    Oh and like Moog says, messages are key and what we should base votes on. And my point that no seer should wait this long to post an anonymous message, meaning its likely that the first message today is the seer should hold some weight.

    Off for the afternoon but even with a second message I reckon I will be voting Moog. I'll wait though as you never know!





    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
     
  25. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    So instead of just making a statement like you are convinced Moog is evil, why not explain it?

    The first (only) message received today claiming Moog to be evil said
    Explain what the bit in bold means if you are sure he is evil. What final clue did the wolves give the seer for him to come to view Moog?
     
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  26. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    I explained my reasoning in the very post you quoted lol.

    Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk
     
  27. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    They crossed, but you didn't explain the bit in bold.
     
  28. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Does this mean that one of teh wolves had the option to choose another wolf instead of making a kill ?

    I might choose for Dirty Den to join the village when i get a choice
     
  29. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Having said all the above, at this stage, with nothing else to go on, I'd definitely vote for me if I were any
    You are only happy to agree with this if it suits your own suppositions.

    I believe I've done more for the village so far than you have, by helping to maintain a process of logical elimination of suspects. You are someone who throws out random accusations but now, surprise surprise, have a message which supports one of them, which was quite baseless.

    I ask this, why would the Seer have viewed me? There are several people who would have been far higher up the list of suspects, as per discussions yesterday.

    The only logic I can see, by your posts yesterday and your continued path is that you set up the message yesterday by accusing me, you then posted the message this morning and you'll try to back that up with your messages today.

    As a wolf, you've clearly decided to use a message to get at me.

    As I said earlier. If I'm gone tonight then I hope the rest of the villagers take note and go for you tomorrow as I am convinced you are the Alpha
     
  30. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    You get more suspicious day by day too. Have you contributed anything so far?
     
  31. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    this is one line that has changed on day 1 & day 2
    not sure if its relevant or not
     
  32. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Anonymous Message #2 (received at 12:01)

    Afternoon Villagers,

    This is your seer. It is another sad day in our village - RIP SLB. With not much else to go on, I've decided to view Harrow Orn as he's had the tendency to throw random accusations around without basing them on logic and I can confirm he is EVIL. I said Daft Row was good and the wolf knows that hence the copied message style today. Don't fall for it.
    Let's get this back on track everyone.
    Your Seer.
     
  33. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Nope !
    I missed most of day 1 and half of day 2 because of work commitments.

    Lets face it at the moment there is a lot of guess work and no substance. I'm sure you read my first post this morning when i suggested that we can no longer bank on Norway and Meh being good if a player has been turned from good to a 3rd werewolf.

    That about it really
     
  34. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    That wraps it up for me. If I had to choose who was evil, without the benefit of messages, out of Harrow and Moog undoubtedly Harrow would get my vote. If Harrow is good then Evil lose their best player tomorrow. It's a no brainer tonight.
     
  35. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    This all hinges on the suspicions of Moog in the first message. If we can find anything convincing we will then know who to lynch
     
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