Ufo’s

…or as they are now known UAP’s.

Thought it might be interesting to canvas the forum opinion on their possible existence or not .

 

No, of course not.
You're welcome.
Next question ?

 

Statistically speaking, there must be other life out there.

Highly unlikely that there is any contact with us though.

Carl Sagan (my hero) put it best. There will be no help from elsewhere.

 

100% US Navy pilot videos that the pentagon released in 2020 prove it.

 

Imagine a race several million years ahead of us technology wise. Would we be able to detect them?
It would be like cavemen detecting our current best tech, not going to happen.

So yes, we might well be visited regularly by other races but not a chance in h*ll that we'd see them using our current technology. To even think we have recorded them is laughable.

 

I definitely believe that there is life beyond this planet. The numbers make it almost impossible that life hasn't developed somewhere on the billions of planets that must exist in the universe.

What I can't understand is, if there is an advanced life form that has managed to travel the vast distances of space, probably defying the law of relativity and exceeded the speed of light, why would they keep their existence secret from us?

And, as with just about any major conspiracy, how have all the governments of the world kept it secret from us, despite the various different administrations that have been in power over the decades?

I've no doubt people regular see things that they can't explain but I think it's far more likely that it's something that originates from Earth, either natural or man made, than alien visitations.

I genuinely hope I am wrong though.

 

Not.

 

When I lived in the USA the National Enquirer was the go to source on these matters.

I lost track of the number of front page headline stories of people abducted from their isolated rural dwelling and whisked up to a UFO Time Machine to be studied, and yes, in some cases molested by these alien beings who regularly visit us.
And then deposited back where they came from - and all before they woke up.

So they definitely exist.

 

"UFO's" what ? I'm surprised @Keighley hasn't been all over this.....

 

Unidentified flying apostrophes are par for the course for this topic.

 

"apostrophe's"

 

And then there are the upper case letters mysteriously abducted and replaced with lower case versions. (UFO’s becoming Ufo’s)

 

Why laughable? As I said the pentagon released videos filmed by Navy pilots of UAP'S. What are you suggesting they are then?

 

Wish they did but no.
Statistically there must be millions if not billions of planets with life in the universe but distances prohibit visits. If a race developed a wormhole style technology maybe they could appear and disappear at will but then they would not go whizzing around and probing stray farmers

 

First of all we are obviously the only evidence of intelligent life, however many points need to be addressed as to whether it exist elsewhere in the universe.

1. The age of the universe is accepted to be about 13.7 billion years old, the first generation of stars could not have contained any other elements than hydrogen, helium and a very small amount of lithium as these were the only elements created in the first 3 minutes after the big bang. Dying stars are capable of creating some elements up to iron and supernovae can fuse elements heavier than iron however the larger the star the higher chance of it becoming a black hole. Therefore only second or third generation stars are going to have rocky planets, made of metals and silicates. With that in mind it's unlikely stars older than 8 billion years could have life supporting planets.
2. It has been proven that simple life on earth has been around since relatively near the beginning 4.4 billion years ago, however it took over 3.5 billion years for multicellular life to appear and a further 540 million years for us to appear. What is unknown is whether:
   1. 4 billion years from the first occurrence of life to intelligent life was slower than "normal" (in this universe's terms).
   2. Faster than normal.
3. Assuming the timescale for us to appear is average, then we need to consider whether intelligent life is inevitable. For example, here mammals were small and a minor group from over 200 million years during the age of the dinosaurs until the asteroid wiped them out and ultimately killed every non-marine animal larger than about 20cm. Had the asteroid not hit, would mammals have taken over from the dinosaurs? But on the other hand, what if the asteroid hit 100 million years earlier or the dinosaurs never got a foothold and died out before then?
4. The time since life started on earth to the lucky events that led us to be here now, I would suggest that spacefaring (or even radio communicating) civilisations across the whole universe is reasonably likely as there must be billions of planets like ours but simply due to the age of the universe we may actually be one of the first; or if not the earliest are too far away to detect yet, i.e. a civilisation could have been around for 1 billion years but are more than 1 billion light years away. Meaning there hasn't been enough time. He we lived 10 billion years in the future the cosmos could be awash with artificial signals.

 

Great post. I even understood some of it.
So does this mean we Do have a transfer ban, or we DON'T ?

 

For anyone who is interested in a sober , fact based summary of the most recent sightings by US pilots and Navy radar operators, this is helpful.

https://www.uap.guide/quotes/introduction

Also on Tuesday 25th there is an open congressional hearing for two of these pilots to testify to the public and also an intelligence officer who has turned whistleblower.


The hearing was initiated by majority leader of the US senate Chuck Schumer . There are a growing number of senior US politicians who are taking this very seriously .

https://oversight.house.gov/release...hearing-on-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena/

 

So they should because they made an absolute mockery of the Navy Pilots. Looking forward to the outcome.

 

Aha! In this case I withdraw my joke.

 

Moment of Contact.
Watch …. and believe ….

 

"THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE"

 

Apologies Carpster, absolutely not my intention to belittle others thoughts on this thread, it was an unwise choice of words.

Yes, the objects seen on camera are certainly unidentifiable, and I don't have an explanation at all, but if it is life that is far in advance of us then surely thaeycan only be captured on film if that was their intention. But then if it was, why such fleeting glimpses?

 

According to the Brazilians, they can hear us. No need to shout.
The undeniable truth is definitely out there.

 

I think to try and second guess the intentions or nature of these craft/beings is difficult and perilous because as you (I think ) stated earlier trying to understand them is like asking a chimp to understand quantum mechanics .

What we must do is just follow the facts as they present to us with an open and curious but rational mind.

The facts being that these craft are 100% there as they have been cross corroborated by multiple measuring devices (radar , infrared, video , human eye of highly trained aircrew) all confirming with a high degree of correlation that they have witnessed and measured the same phenomena.

These craft have been behaving in a manner that is way, way, way beyond any technology that any nation has . ( ie dropping from edge of space to sea level in under a second , reversing direction of travel instantaneously despite travelling at Mach 10+ , I could list many more but want to keep this brief )

We can’t even theorise how they are moving because the craft give off no heat signal or sonic boom - the technology is hundreds of years possibly thousands ahead of where human understanding of aeronautics is currently at .

Like I have stated earlier there a number of high profile US politicians behind this now , who would not risk their reputation if they did not believe there is lot of evidence . In fact Senators Bruchette and Luna have both stated they have spoken with a number of high level intelligence personnel who have said to them off the record that these craft do exist and the US government has proof .

 

It's because of the prime directive.

 

I can't answer that. But I can say that one of the pilots said it was almost waiting for it to catch-up. Not saying they're being flown by aliens but they're definitely UAP'S.
Anyway as @BigRossLittleRoss said the said pilots will be speaking about these craft next week.

 

I thought Helen Mirren was excellent in that series .

 

Neither are senators. And Luna is a pretty loony congresswoman if you go by her political bio on Wiki. Her reputation ain't exactly stellar...

 

At work m8. I know you rarely bother.

 

Your larger point being?

 

So was I, but work always ranks second to this forum.