Not sure I’d agree about Kane being in the top category - he’s had some lean spells for Spurs and England (even Sterling has arguably been more important for the latter lately) and this season he’s behind Son in the scorers chart, who isn’t an out-and-out striker.
The BW Comanches are rounding our COG wagon circle firing arrows at our children and sizing us up for scalping. For the love and salvation of the good Lord Gino we need to come together for a final suicide attack and at least die with honour. Are you with me brothers and sisters ?
All we need is a win. Then a few more. Then we will go on a run. Then we’ll stay up. It can only happen if we win this weekend though. Time to BELIEVE. One win is all we need. One win and we’re staying up. COYH - HERE’S TO YOU POZZO FAMILY! E I E I E I O
I thought you were going to pray that not only do we lose badly (again) but Everton, Leeds etc finally get their act together to remove all doubt and stop giving us this painful false hope.
Never a good idea to be 'spinless'. Spin is a parachute,allows the player to hit harder with safety. This will come into play as Hoddesdon travel to Welwyn for a mixed fixture and Welwyn's holier than thou captain,a tennis playing Max Wall, complete with tights,will appear and doubtless preach. Hoddesdon still searching for a second man as I type. Perhaps Ray Train is available?
3-0 Early YouTuber mistake leads to a goal. Cathcart gives away the ball and they score. JWP scores a top bins freekick after Cleverley falls on top of him and gets a red card. COYH!
What, Super Ray Train ..... 95th minute equalizer home to Mansfield in old Div 3 promotion year - forever etched in the memory .... Is Pedro (still) a covid absence for tomorrow? Either way, I think we'll smash Southampton, 3-1 or 4-1 ...... but if it's only 1-0, as when we beat Aston Villa and I predicted we'd smash them too, I'll take it ....
Would you still include Ronaldo in the first category? Two goals this afternoon including one stunner - whatever his effect on Man Utd as a team, amazingly he still has it at 37.
Roy will visit the corner shop and stock up on some pipe tobacco before his band of mercenaries get another walloping as Southampton get their season back on course and deliver Roy his final game in management. Saints 3 Orn’s 0 Kenny Jackett given the impossible job for the run in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
No no and thrice no We shall , somehow , get a result at St Mary's, and believe yet again that we can get out of this mess, only to be followed by a tanking at our next match . It is how we operate these days
Think I will be doing something more productive with my time tomorrow but no doubt after lunch I'll drag myself along to watch in the vain hope of a miracle.
The biggest failing most managers have is to stick their trust in a particular player or two. Ignoring their form and hoping they can produce what they might have done in the past. Like Bielsa with Batigol for instance. Every manager does it. For Roy it seems he thinks Cleverley is an England aspirant. Get Sissoko-Louza-Etebo in with Kucka for the last twenty or so.
Can’t wait for this one. So happy it’s on nice and early at 2pm so I don’t have to wait all day. Bloody love football me. Orns.
Well Cleverley played under Roy when he was England manager, only in the qualifiers for WC 2014 and surrounding friendlies though.
Think Roy may bethinking it's still 2014 and TC is a spring chicken. He like Kucka can play a proper ninety minutes once every ten days. Kucka had his best game at the season start and then coming back from international breaks.
I really hope Cathcart is dropped for this one and Sierralta gets another chance. If Kiko isn't fit then still swap Cathcart for Sierralta and stick Kabs at RB. JP should hopefully come back in for King. If Etebo is fit he needs to play instead of Cleverley.
Sorry to the loyal Hornets going to the game today. You deserve better than the shower of shirkers you are going to be forced to cheer for.
No one is forcing them to go or to cheer. Anyway I'm getting a bit irritated at the 'shirkers, spineless, cowards' narrative that is the latest bandwagon to jump on. We know the team aren't good enough, but instead of just having a go at players who through no fault of their own are not good enough, that's not enough for some people, who want to throw further pointless and fabricated abuse at them rather than sharply focus their righteous anger where it should go - ie. on the club's owners.
And I’m getting fairly irritated about a group of players who collapse at the first sign of trouble and concede 3 goals in 8 minutes, who capitulate in every must win game, who act like children on social media while gifting goals to opposition and who substitute themselves with mystery injuries when the going gets tough. Coward seems apt. I’m also getting very irritated by people like you who feel the need to sanctimoniously lecture fans who are quite rightly are angry at the displays of some of these well paid players and who informs others that the players have no accountability for their dreadful performances whatsoever. The owners deserve all the criticism they get but the players don’t get a free pass.
The players get it easy from the fans compared to other clubs. There are still plenty of people on social media replying to posts from the likes of Ken Sema with a picture of a ******* goat. Sissoko has come out after games against Norwich and Palace, two very winnable home games, and said that basically the team didn't turn up or try hard enough. The Norwich performance should never have been repeated, they begged fans to come and then didn't even bother putting the effort in. Yet we've since taken total beatings from Palace and Wolves and barely picked up any points. They clearly don't have any fight in them and are being called out on it because they are being paid ludicrous sums of money to represent our club. Plus you can scroll through pretty much any thread on this forum and someone will be criticising Gino or Scott, so I'm not sure why you think they are avoiding the flak?
And I'm getting irritated by the irritated people on here irritating everyone else with their need to keep posting about who and what irritates them and when. Nah... only joking. Carry on!
More recently they always seem to do us. Hassenhuttle (or however you spell it) always turns poor form around. They have togetherness, we don’t. They have youngsters coming through their ranks or snap them up from larger sides and give them a chance. I think this breeds an amount of loyalty in players that we don’t have due to our system. That combined with constant rotation of managers meaning they won’t know who they are playing for in a few months time. What is frustrating is that playing for the fans rather than the manager doesn’t seem to be an option. 2-0 Southampton.
I agree, it is annoying that we let in so many goals, but the 'coward' narrative is unfair. They didn't let three goals in 8 minutes in against Wolves deliberately, they did it because they are not good enough and the manager is not good enough. That's the fault of the owners. Regarding social media, what do you want them to say? As for this mystery injury line, how do you know it's not true? Trying to play on through a little niggle is usually best avoided.
If I were a saints fan, I won't expect this to be a easy win at all, I will be expecting a shock 1:0 loss. Sent from my TECNO P701 using Tapatalk
Southampton will have one eye on next weeks cup tie potentially? Will the team who played at Villa,Man U or Burnley and Arsenal turn up or the one v Wolves/Brighton /Palace. I think that is the frustration- we can be in games but don't give ourselves a chance at times particularly in winnable big games .
While I broadly agree with this, it’s also true that the players need to take responsibility for their own performance. What happens in a game on the pitch is not wholly down to the manager. For instance, 2-1 down at home to Palace they should have been busting a gut to attack to get back into the game, irrespective of the pre-game plan, but they didn’t and that was unforgivable. I think it’s partly down to not having many (any?) leaders in the team to urge them on and, of course, that goes back once again to recruitment.
Jeez, every excuse you could offer them, you’ve afforded them. Social media? Stay off it. Or rightfully apologise to fans who are spending hard earned money to have their faith thrown back at them nigh on every week. Play on through a little niggle? Damn right they should. It’s a battle to stay up and they need to show stomach for the fight. So we can’t criticise them at all purely because it’s deemed they are playing terribly deliberately? What tosh. By that token no one at the club could ever be criticised. Why do you say we can criticise the owner then? I doubt he is purposely ruining his investment and he’s surely doing his best and just isn’t good enough - not his fault? Sorry but the fact you don’t like the narrative doesn’t mean it isn’t bang on. The players have shown themselves to be cowardly characters on many occasions. Sissoko posting an open letter rallying call before the Norwich game only for them do lose 0-3? Cowardly. Capitulating to heavy defeats regularly? Cowardly. Multiple home games without a single point? Cowardly. Cathcart putting his arms behind his back and shying away from players before they put it in the net, as opposed to putting himself on the line to stop it? Cowardly. Hodgson taking zero responsibility after each defeat? Cowardly. I could go on..
