'Lad' Culture

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by Cassetti's Beard, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. willia6691

    willia6691 Reservist

    Is this thread for real?? OMG what a load of nonsense.
     
  2. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    It's not the best Arkady Renko story - but it's still very readable.
     
  3. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Wouldn't the people you class as 'lads' still be complete *****, even if they didn't have the label of being a 'lad'?
     
  4. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    :]]

    Too easy.
     
  5. J.B

    J.B First Team

    Hmm..
     
  6. J.B

    J.B First Team

    My girlfriend wanted to go to the cinema on 31st January and I said ''Nah, sorry love I can't, I've got a date with Jim White!!! Now get back in the kitchen and make me dinner WENCH!!!!'' WHEEEYYYYY

    jimwhiteLAD LADs4lyf
     
  7. fan

    fan slow toaster

    I think the fact that so many young uma readily self-identify as lads would point to them actually existing. Like people who wear fedoras, I can't pretend to understand or respect it, but I can't ignore it
     
  8. Watfordboi:p

    Watfordboi:p Academy Graduate

    I wear snapbacks
    I get very drunk and sing football songs
    I have banter with my friends
    Ive been/going on "lads holidays"
    I can be a c**t to people
    Jim White is a gangster

    Lock me up, throw away they key
     
  9. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    WTF is a snapback?
    WTF is Jim White? The snooker guy?

    And yes, you're exactly what we're against.
     
  10. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I like olives, couscous and hummus
    I like drinking in moderation on special occasions, but only high quality liquor
    I like relaxing holidays and sight seeing
    I like audiobooks
    I wear comfortable shoes
    I engage in witty discourse with my friends
    I like a tidy f*nny

    Lock me up and throw away the key.
     
  11. TheDon

    TheDon First Team

    I don't know who I am anymore.
     
  12. Pozzo Out

    Pozzo Out Squad Player

    There's a difference between going out and having a laugh, and being an obnoxious ****.
     
  13. TheDon

    TheDon First Team

    Last night I went out after work to a house party had some pints, some vodka and some baileys, did some shots and got home a couple hours ago. Am I a lad? What do I have to do to qualify?
     
  14. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Did you perchance happen to belt out any melodies concerning any Ivorian brothers playing in the premier league? Did you brashly complement any females on their body parts?

    If you have done neither of the above, I am afraid you are not a lad. I'm sorry to disappoint you.
     
  15. TheDon

    TheDon First Team

    I did one of those things. And spilt a kebab on the floor and saw two girls eat it off the floor.
     
  16. Orny Arry

    Orny Arry Guest

    Oh, you're being serious are you? I wasn't too sure. Anyway, how do you know the ladbible isn't funny? You must read it to know whether it's funny or not. So, if it's not, why read it for? Secretly, I think you've identified a group that you'd like to fall within, but you know deep down your face simply wouldn't fit. Weeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy!

    Back to the plot, whatever the ***** it is. According to you, I come on here and give it Barry Big B*llocks to get noticed. Well, just in case you're unsure - because, let's face it, you come across as being particularly confused - I couldn't give a ***** (Oh sorry, does my swearing epitomise that of a lad? Does it offend you? Drat....). I couldn't care what you think, what any cyber warrior on here thinks, and more so, your perpetuating views on such unintelligent topics, such as this one.

    If you picture this bloke, better known as Orny Arry, come on this site with the sole intention of trying to prove to people - the majority of whom are a bunch of losers who live a life pretending to be a social class above the one they actually are - that I am a modern day Peter Stringfellow then you can all think again. I keep myself to myself. I've had a few people on here inviting me to meet up, and for one reason or another, it didn't quite happen straight away. Yes, I like a beer. Yes, I love my football. But actually, I am quite a private person. I don't want anyone on here (bar the one or two I've met recently) to know too much about me. Maybe, this was the reason behind not meeting up with fellow users more rapidly than I did (although I'm glad I did).

    You and others keep saying it's hit a nerve. Of course it has, because I've come on here several months ago, said nothing more than what a high number of users have done on other threads, which I've evidenced, yet whilst you all encouraged each other you then looked down on anyone who you thought was behaving in a certain way - not recognising, of course, that 'behaviour' isn't too dissimilar to your own. But the hit nerve wasn't here....

    I'm a good reader of peoples behaviour. I have to be. I've been working in my sector since 2002 and worked with troubled families, social tenants, alcohol and drug users, those who suffer from mental health, DV abusers and their victims, the list could go on. Without the ability to read peoples behaviours, as a professional, your interventions will be wholly ineffective and nor will they reflect reality. When you see people talk about particular issues, as has been described on here, and be so biased to relate them to one group of people, you have to ask yourself why. Why are they stigmatising that group?

    I have my own view on this. But let me explain more first. Users have mentioned the Yaya Toure chant. I, for the life of me, can't believe this is a necessity for being a lad, but anyway. Before Christmas, I went to our staff party. It was a good laugh, everyone was a bit merry - young, old, black, white, fat or thin - and why not, eh! When we left the party, which was in a busy city centre, there was a group of adults (yes, that's right... adults... not kids, not students, not teenagers, not just men, but a mixed gender of adults of various ages) all doing the Yaya chant. I remember it all started from a middle-aged lady, she must have been in her 40s if not 50s. Her colleagues, who were presumably on a staff party also, joined in. Two coppers walked by and one of the group (a lady) moved towards them, then the entire group surrounded the coppers all doing the Yaya chant. One older bloke (in his 60s I reckon) grabbed the wrists of one copper and tried to get him to dance. The copper joined in. I haven't looked, but I'd be surprised if it's not on youtube.

    Why are you condemning this behaviour for? Groups of people, enjoying life, putting aside their woes and troubles over the last 12 months - the stresses of work, family life, and anything that may effect the average person - and actually having a laugh. What is wrong with this? People deserve to live a fulfilling life, stress-free insofar as possible. Nobody was offended, nobody was hurt, and with the officers of the law joining in and taking it all in their stride, a lot of benefits could come from this.

    So, are these fully grown adults, who work hard for a living - all of various ages, of various origins and of both genders - going to be stigmatised too? If so, how? Based on what? Are you now saying that all adults, of all age groups, of all origins, regardless of gender, now all meet this so-called definition of being a lad?

    I feel as if you have a problem that you are struggling to come to terms with, and that is, to some extent at least, the ability to identify your place in society. What is your status? Everyone's face fits. Yours, mine, the disabled, those suffering from MH.... you know where I'm going with this, I'm sure. My concern is that you've found a forum and having done so you use this, with a number of others, to 'gang' up on anyone who may be a little more outspoken, or someone you fear, regardless of the reason. This is your way to input your status. Show it off even.

    And just in case that doesn't work, you've even assigned your twitter account to your username for everyone to see.... Now who's trying to get noticed?
     
  17. Orny Arry

    Orny Arry Guest

    Yes there is, and that's referring to someone as being an obnoxious c*nt repeatedly until someone pays you enough attention.
     
  18. TheDon

    TheDon First Team

    So what football songs can I sing when out in Brixton tomorrow?
     
  19. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    To me, the principle of that argument is wrong - it's like saying referring to someone in a racially derogative fashion isn't racist as long as it's not to their face.
    However let's agree to disagree on that one. If I was the type of person to find offence in every bit of banter the wrong side of sexist then I wouldn't have enjoyed a successful career in the field I chose & I certainly wouldn't be a regular visitor to a football forum. If the comment's funny, it makes me laugh. I have to admit some of your posts have made me cringe but that's only because going into intimate details of past conquests isn't really my bag & reminds me too much of the Finchy character in The Office (I'm not saying you are like him generally so don't be offended!).
    And, yes, I know there are plenty of female 'Finchys' out there - I don't discriminate; I find them equally as sad as their male counterparts.
     
  20. Orny Arry

    Orny Arry Guest

    Sorry, going into my past conquests?

    Referring to an ex-girlfriend who I stupidly gave a fake name to isn't quite the same as someone shouting from the rooftops about how many girls they've slept with. I've not done that. I get the impression people on here read posts and then create their own picture of what someone is like.

    Having said that, a poster on here referred to the number of girls who he couldn't remember the names of during the 70s in Magaluf. That's a lot more detail, but that's fine, I'm sure you've PM'd him and aired your views as well. No? Thought not.
     
  21. magyarorszag

    magyarorszag Squad Player

    orny arry, you need to keep yourself more busy
     
  22. Pozzo Out

    Pozzo Out Squad Player

    Awww, bless.
     
  23. Orny Arry

    Orny Arry Guest

    Leave for work at 7.30am, having already been swimming, start work at 8.30 ish, finish work somewhere between 4-5, hour to get home, in the gym by 6pm latest, home by 7.30-8pm latest, quick snack, then settle down for an hour or two before bed. Pretty sure I'm busy enough, but thanks anyway.
     
  24. Orny Arry

    Orny Arry Guest

    Sarcasim = obnoxious. Are you a lad? Are you trying to be a lad? Are you wanting to be a lad?
     
  25. Pozzo Out

    Pozzo Out Squad Player

    obnoxious (əbˈnɒkʃəs )

    Definitions
    adjective

    extremely unpleasant
    (obsolete) exposed to harm, injury, etc



    I fail to see sarcasm...
     
  26. Orny Arry

    Orny Arry Guest

    Sarcasm is intended to cause harm. Therefore, extremely unpleasant.

    Just been reading some of your old posts Mr. Pozzman. Shall we start a thread for all to see?
     
  27. ForzaWatford

    ForzaWatford Squad Player

    I don't know if I've missed something and if this thread was intentially set up aimed at Arry, but that's what he seems to think. Personally I have nothing against Arry, or lads in general for that matter, just don't like lad culture.
     
  28. nascot

    nascot First Team

    Anything that mocks the Caribbean.
     
  29. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Can we have a vbookie event on who'll be the next person to have an argument with Arry?
     
  30. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc First Team

    Joey Barton.
     
  31. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Wasn't that post I was thinking of actually but, as I said, I have zero interest in having an argument with you or anyone else on here. And, no, I haven't PM'd anyone.
     
  32. Pozzo Out

    Pozzo Out Squad Player

    Going through old posts? Christ almighty. Having expressed displeasure multiple times at lad culture you get quite defensive? Bloody hell.
     
  33. CarlosKickaballs

    CarlosKickaballs Forum Picarso

    Deeney.
     
  34. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Much of the "laddish" behaviour mentioned on this thread is just normal behaviour for many, including me when I was younger. I look back at my own young adulthood and I cringe at how I sometimes behaved. But that doesn't mean that I think it is the right way to behave. I know that if I got drunk, loud and ended up vomiting in gutter or the taxi, then I knew I had gone too far. I would be mildly ashamed. I would rather try to forget it, rather than boast about it.

    ...and it is that aspect that annoys me about "lad" culture. They seem to think it is normal, big and clever to act in this way. They boast about what they will be doing that night, they do it, and then boast about it the next day - because they are a "lad", and that is what "lads" do. Well I think that attitude stinks, far more than the actual behaviour itself.

    I do watch those Kavos, Magaluf type programs and the girls are certainly as bad, if not worse, than the lads, so I am not sure the term "lad culture" is the right term on the first place.

    As for behaviour on Forums, I actually don't think that the odd sexist comment does any harm. If females get upset about it then they are, in my mind, being too sensitive. But, I don't indulge much myself, if at all, and I certainly think that the boasting about sexual conquests that we have seen on this forum, sometimes in anatomical detail, is quite pathetic even when it comes from a 20 yr old. When it comes from a someone older, it seems to be particularly immature.
     
  35. ChrisG

    ChrisG Squad Player

    1. Not one bit. That isn't my style to fall in line with what everyone else wants to be. Why would I?

    2. So what makes your view more important than mine? Trying to justify yourself?

    3. Oh no, not the dredded twitter account. Please follow me Orny! My life is so dull without you there.

    Seriously, buddy, Can I call you buddy? Does it cross the line? My stand is there is nothing wrong with having a drink and having a laugh, just don't be an absolute **** about it. Nobody cares how many women you've slept with, how many football songs you know or how many pints of beer you can drink without being sick, its just a contest to see who can **** highest. Pointless. Reffering to women as "*****" is wrong in my eyes. It gives the impression that you think you are better than them, just like you think you are better than me because you've written a long winded reply, it doesn't wash with me. Being a "Lad" has a social stigmatism linked to it.

    I really feel the fact you are defending it so badly, really is a means to justify your behaviour that others see as immature. Just because you can disguise it with big words and long coherent posts doesn't mean it is anything less. Despite you and many others (probably) thinking you have got one over on me with your post and explanations, I just feel you are making yourself look worse. That is my call. I don't like "Lad" culture, I never will.
     

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