Fa Cup

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  1. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  2. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I'm sorry that first goal was hilarious! Gets the ball, runs half a yard, falls on his face. Had to double take that it wasn't our own Bayo.

    I think the third goal was pretty good, but the other two? Suspect at the very least. Their GK didn't even attempt to save the first one.
     
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  3. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    3rd round draw is apparently during the build up to the ITV lunchtime kick off tomorrow. I had to look it up so thought I’d share on here.
     
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  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Man City or Maidstone?
     
  5. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Middlemarch George!
     
  6. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    We've got it in us to lose to both on our day.
     
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  7. So this weekend the BBC and ITV showed us these delights:
    Palace v Everton
    Spurs v Burnley
    Sunderland v Newcastle
    Man city v Huddersfield
    Arsenal v Liverpool
    Wigan v Man United

    You can pretty much guarantee in the 4th round they'll pick:
    Chelsea v Villa
    Spurs v City
    Fulham v Newcastle
    Sheffield United v Brighton
    And obviously Liverpool and Manchester United again.

    No real giant killing opportunities, maybe Wigan v United aside. No real underdog stories or chances for minnows to bare their teeth or generate some much needed TV revenue. Nope. Same old teams we get every week on sky already.

    I get it. I get these teams are the ratings drivers and these channels don't get to show premier league games so gush over getting the chance to show as many premier league teams as possible when they can, but when herr lineker & co discuss the magic of the cup being lost, these people must look at themselves at some point and think "maybe we are the reason it's being lost".

    Alas they won't. TV ratings rule and I guess understandably so and BBC and ITV probably pander to the armchair supporter of the big teams more than most. But it would be good for these channels to just take a bit of a stand and show some of the games featuring some of the better chances at an upset.

    This rant was brought to you by the letters F and A and the number 24.
     
  8. Oh, and quite possibly Wrexham just to jump on that media circus bandwagon as well.
     
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  9. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Least you can understand why the Man U games have been on but no doubt the Tv guys are delighted they will probably in round 5 particularly after a few other PL sides are out - Arsenal and one of Spur/City and Chelsea/Villa.

    Hopefully WBA play Wolves as that would be a good game .

    So long as the former don’t do a Sunderland v Newcastle.
     
  10. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I agree with you completely, but I suppose the BBC would argue they do their bit for the ‘romance of the Cup’ with their coverage in the even earlier rounds. To be fair, they have a pretty good record of covering non-league giantkillings in rounds 1 & 2 over recent seasons.
     
  11. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    The 3rd round is for the little club to have its day in the sun . One weekend a year is not much to ask .
    But oh no they had to pick a match between the 2 biggest pragmatic managers going toe to toe and serving up a 0-0 bore fest.
     
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  12. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    As we’ve already discussed elsewhere, the decision to show Everton v Palace was a shocker, and ITV got the match that awful decision deserved. I’d truthfully avoid watching that match were it a PL TV game, so who on earth decided to show it as one of their three live cup ties? Shocking!

    The ideal cup ties to show are PL clubs away to lower opponents. So I’ve no issues with Sunderland v Newcastle, and although it’s absurd how they get shown in every single round whoever their opponents, it made sense too showing United as well. And I’ve no problem either with them showing one big heavyweight clash, and actually Arsenal v Liverpool was a decent watch. Sours v Burnley though was another poor choice. Spurs were overwhelming favourites and had home advantage too.

    I’ve not seen who will be televised for the replays, but the obvious one would be Bristol City v West Ham as that ticks all the boxes for a good cup clash.

    The BBC tend to get these things right more often, whereas ITV have made some shocking choices lately. I feel they need to ask themselves why they are televising the competition. Is it so they can have a go at rivalling Sky (thus showing lots of all PL clashes that those with the subscription channels can watch most weeks) OR are they genuinely interested in the magic of the cup? I fear their choices for last weekend showed it’s more a case of the former.
     
  13. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    My contribution to this debate is that I don't care about any matches other than ours. I haven't watched any of the other games and don't care about the other results. I honestly couldn't tell you who have played in the last 3 finals and who the current holders are (presume one of the top 4?). The cup has been dead to me since 2019. I know Arsenal were in the final in 2020 as I recall we played that "win or bust" match a week before their final but I don't know who they played or if they won it.
     
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  14. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Unfortunately, the public makes the decision for the broadcasters. 7.6m people watched the Arsenal-Liverpool match on BBC and for a non-Sky/BT household the FA Cup is pretty much the only opportunity for the majority of people to watch a big match between two high-profile sides.

    The broadcasters know that more people will watch Man United v Literally Anyone than a more romantic-looking tie. Even for the BBC, the name of the game is delivering eyeballs.
     
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  15. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    Fair enough but I think most people's issue was the Palarse\ Everton match .
     
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  16. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I bet Everton are one of those sides like Leeds or Newcastle that has a big enough fanbase to push to TV figures higher than they'd be for a bog standard match.
     
  17. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Thanks for sharing.
     
  18. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    You're welcome.
     
  19. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Indeed. A huge success for the BBC and I’m sure all the other games did big numbers too. People can bang on about Palace/Everton being a poor spectacle but it doesn’t matter. All that matters is people watching. Which ironically all the people moaning about the fixture selection did anyway.

    Good job.
     
  20. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Even the only bit of controversy in that game was manufactured for TV and has now been undone:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67922687
     
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  21. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  22. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    FA cup TV games .

    FRIDAY 26 JANUARY 2024

    Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City at 8pm on ITV1, UTV, STV and ITVX

    SATURDAY 27 JANUARY 2024

    Ipswich Town v Maidstone United at 12.30pm on BBC One, BBC iPlayer and BBC Sport

    Fulham v Newcastle United at 7pm on ITV4 and ITVX

    SUNDAY 28 JANUARY 2024
    West Bromwich Albion v Brentford or Wolverhampton Wanderers at 11.45am on ITV1, UTV, STV and ITVX

    Liverpool v Norwich City or Bristol Rovers at 2.30pm on ITV1, UTV, STV and ITVX

    Newport County or Eastleigh v Manchester United at 4.30pm on BBC One, BBC iPlayer and BBC Sport
     
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  23. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Predictable.
    OK (shame it’s not the other way round).
    Meh.
    Good (especially if Wolves get through).
    Pointless.
    Fine.
     
  24. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    At least it means we're on the usual 3pm Saturday slot though. Right?
     
  25. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  26. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Bristol City with a major scalp tonight. Just in time to play us on Saturday full of confidence.
     
  27. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Got quite physical too which West Ham didn't like - no VAR to save them.

    Mind you they'll be confident enough after the Boxing day clash.
     
  28. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    2 goal in 4 games so far .

    All level .

    TV will like another MC/Spurs game though .
     
  29. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    It's been awful. Frenetic headless football, with a lot of passing around the back loads of diving, tactical fouls, VAR delays and play acting with very few shots. Hype about De Bruyne and Maddison coming in, yet both have been anonymous since coming on (de Bruyne just misses a sitter too). Pep booked for being the **** that he is.
     
  30. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Flimsy keeping by Queen Victoria there.
    Albert would have cleared it.
     
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  31. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Think that was the right call as he still got the ball
     
  32. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Personally think it was a foul, but not surprised to see Finance FC get the decision. The FA are bankrolled by them.
     
  33. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Great half by Maidstone. Absolutely battered and Ipswich should have/of had a hat full of goals. However Maidstone’s keeper made some great saves, Ipswich have hit the woodwork 3/4 times and find themselves 1-0 down at HT. Was a great counter by Maidstone, fantastic pass and the finish was quality.
     
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  34. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Pegged back but gone ahead again !
     
  35. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    2 shots, 2 goals.
     

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