[SOLD] Richarlison de Andrade

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by wfcSinatra, Apr 8, 2018.

  1. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Absolutely this, it’s bizzare. They’ve paid a figure you would’ve expected a club to pay if there had been three or four other clubs bidding for him.

    This in itself is an interesting point, during his purple patch supposedly Spurs and Liverpool were interested but come the summer not even a sniff from them.

    Like us, they’ve probably seen enough post his purple patch to have some serious question marks. Not one of them even fancied putting in a low ball bid of £20m, they didn’t even think it was worth paying that for him.
     
  2. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Gino needs to check Edna has logged into the real HSBC banking app first...
     
  3. Mighty Mo

    Mighty Mo Reservist

    Oh this must be the legendary Scouse humour!
     
  4. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    Am I bothered about this one, not really.
    I only saw his home performances and nothing. He had that good spell away from home but against the lower ranked teams like Swansea for 2nd half of season couldn't hit a barn door, went down looking for a foul at every opportunity and then subbed off.
    Seems a decent lad but worry his confidence will be shot if he doesnt start off well. Doesnt either have the support network of gomes or friends like willian or Luis.
    Fee is just ridiculous, Silva showing his arrogance of wanting a particular player whatever the cost in terms of relations between the club's which already at a low and moshiri just being thick skinned waking his was around.
    Deal great for Watford, whether it will be for Everton, Silva or Richarlison remains to be seen
     
  5. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    I reckon Gino would love this guy:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldi_Rinaldi
     
  6. toffeeblue9

    toffeeblue9 First Year Pro

    We are renowned for it.

    Even yesterday we paid £40 million for a Brazilian lad who couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo, just to give everyone a smile.
     
  7. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    He has his daddy Snake now though. There's also Roberto Firmino, Alisson and Fabinho on Merseyside.
     
  8. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

  9. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    £42m, but other than that absolutely correct.
     
  10. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    He's the budget version. It's a dream Pozzo signing if ever I saw one.
     
  11. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    I just hope he can do this.
     
  12. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    You're not he only one: the last Sports Report I heard this morning on R4 the reporter, I'm certain, read it as £15M. I'm only assuming she saw her script and thought that it had to be a typo.
     
  13. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    Yeah...We don't want some blue nose cyber criminals getting it wired straight back to Merseyside! Also check to make sure they have no sister club in Belgium.
     
  14. The uninformed

    The uninformed Academy Graduate

    In a market where Felipe Anderson - who has underwhelmed in Italy - is going to West Ham for £40m, I actually think £40m - £50m is probably decent value from Everton's point of view.

    Yes its a lot of money for Watford but that's really irrelevant unless we spend it on players who make us as good or better than Richy which I think is very difficult.

    Yes, Everton could have spent less and maybe even got 2 first team players for that kind of money but they did that last season and now they're desperately trying to sell Klaasen and Ramirez and have already shipped Rooney out.

    Richy is 21 so even if he tanks at Everton he'll have a re-sale value in a couple of years. At his very worst last season, he kept the oppo full back thinking the entire game and caused a nuisance with his physicality and speed (neither of which is likely to disappear even if his form does) so his depreciation will be limited even if he doesn't fully live up to expectations. We know what he's capable of when he's on his game and if they get more of that, they've got a potentially top level player on their hands.

    Obviously only time will tell but my initial thoughts are Everton have the better side of this deal. Which isn't to say we shouldn't have sold. He was always going to go. I just think we need to check ourselves with all this talk of us rinsing Everton. I just don't see that.
     
  15. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    I like the cut of his jib
     
  16. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    What Moshiri pays is irrelevant to them - its a bottomless pit. Their issue will be getting the big names to sign for them purely for the money with no real chance of winning anything. They will be overpaying for a lot of very good or promising players but not able to sign the brilliant players that go the top 4/5. Richarlison may be about as big a signing as they can make.
     
  17. I believe you have got a decent player who may prove to be a bargain, but of our current squad, if you look at current competency, Richarlison is is probably one of the most expendable players.

    If Gino seriously believed Richarlison was important to the team, he would not have sold him. The guy was turning down ridiculous (reportedly 20m) offers for Deeney when we were in the Championship, and turned down bids up to £30m for Ighalo and Deeney during our first Prem season.

    Knowing Gino as we have seen him do business at Watford, I would be more worried about Richarlison, from Everton's point of view, the lower the fee paid. If we accepted 35m for the lad, then it will be because we do not rate him or value him paricularly highly and wish to cash in. If we accepted £50m, it would be because it was an offer difficult to refuse for a non-essential player with promise.

    But either way, even at those prices, the very fact we are willing to sell when we have shown in the past that we are not a selling club, demonstrates that Richarlison was far from key to Watfords plans.

    You have not bought one of our best players. But you have bought a decent player with potential.

    Gino really is the man.
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2018
  18. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Most posters actually have mastered 'fewer/less'.

    At times it's like the All Souls SCR.
     
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  19. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Agreed. I believe there are now less posters who get this mixed up.
     
  20. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    TB, have you been traded with Richie?

    If so, what's your value?

    If, say, £10m, then we've shafted Moshiri to the tune of £60m.
     
  21. Can't see Richarlison at Ipswich.
     
  22. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Somehow reassuring that in an age of £200m footballers there is still room for an Edna.

    PS: almost an anagram of Edam.
     
  23. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    The thing with Richarlison is that he was found out quite quickly as soon as people started to double up on him. This restricted him to just shoot from outside the box which was largely hit and hopes.
     
  24. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    At least full stop at end of sentence.

    That's a start.
     
  25. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

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  26. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I think those waves might start getting a bit choppy if a deal for Doucs materialises.
     
  27. The uninformed

    The uninformed Academy Graduate

    This is just silly. One of the most expendable players in our squad? And if the price was low it was because we don't rate him but if it was high it was because he was non-essential?

    We got decent money for him but he is a potentially fantastic player and I would much rather have him than oodles of cash that we might not use wisely (or be able to use wisely given the calibre of player likely to agree to join us).
     
  28. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    When we got £900,000 for John Barnes it was much less* than it should have been but a king's ransom for us at the time. So we spent big. On Trevor Senior, Tony Agana, Peter Hetherston .....

    *or maybe fewer
     
  29. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

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  30. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Exactly. For us this will only be a good deal if the quality of the first 11/squad is better after we spend the money than it was before we sold him. Lets see what happens in the next 3 weeks.
     
  31. You are indeed uninformed.

    If Gino wanted to keep Richarlison, and felt he had a significant part to play next season, he would have said no sale until Everton went away, as with Troy and Leicester, Man United and Ighalo and Everton with Silva.

    We are not little Watford any more.

    Rejoice in it. Try not to be confused.
     
  32. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    I’ve said many times, the only player I’ll be gutted to see leave (not that I want the others to go at all) is Doucoure.

    But I’d liked to have seen Richarlison in a Watford shirt again this season. Those first ten or so games he looked like a potential world class player.

    I feel for him a bit now. I was still impressed by his work rate, he got stuck in and didn’t shy away from getting into goal scoring positions. I’d imagine this won’t be enough to keep the Everton fans happy though.
     
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  33. Not really. Getting £40/50m for Richarlison is superb business. The spending or not of those funds is completely separate.
     
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  34. The kid's family will be able to eat off that for the rest of their lives. I mean litterally eat off it, like with a knife and fork.

    ******* ridiculous bleedin' watch.
     
  35. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Is it silly?

    Richarlison barely featured at all under Gracia and players like Capoue, Gray and Okaka were all favoured off the bench when trying to change or chase a game. Seems to me that for what Gracia wants from his players, Richarlison was largely expendable. There’s a large argument to be had that if everyone is fit (which is rare, I know!) that he wouldn’t have got in our strongest team. Well you list our midfielders as Hughes, Doucoure, Cleverley, Pereyra, Deloufeu and Chalobah - who do you put Richarlison in for? £40-£45m for a player who is likely viewed as a sub at present is great business.

    Richarlison never stopped trying. And he was clearly passionate about trying to regain form. But it never happened. Sure, Everton are buying potential. And it may work out. But it is a large step into the unknown at that fee. He needs to add a whole lot more to his game to be worth what they have paid.
     
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