Next Manager - Ivic Confirmed

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by hornetboy1, Jul 19, 2020.

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Who should the new manager be ?

Poll closed Aug 20, 2020.
  1. Jokanovic

    19 vote(s)
    12.3%
  2. Flores

    3 vote(s)
    1.9%
  3. Zola

    4 vote(s)
    2.6%
  4. Ivic

    33 vote(s)
    21.4%
  5. Struber

    39 vote(s)
    25.3%
  6. Marcelino

    2 vote(s)
    1.3%
  7. Why bother unless Floppo is removed ?

    28 vote(s)
    18.2%
  8. Harry the Hornet

    17 vote(s)
    11.0%
  9. Mullins

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Hughton

    2 vote(s)
    1.3%
  11. Howe

    7 vote(s)
    4.5%
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  1. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Didn't he even take a pay cut or something similar just so he could play?
     
  2. JimOrn

    JimOrn Academy Graduate

    Yes, I believe that we loaned him out to Derby as he was close to activating some kind of appearance bonus which we couldn’t afford. He then renegotiated his contract so he could play.
     
  3. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Memorably scored for Derby against us while still a Watford player!
     
  4. JimOrn

    JimOrn Academy Graduate

    Wasn’t that the last game of the season, I’m sure we won. I think I remember the Derby fans had lots of inflatables with them.
     
  5. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Getting a woman in Derby is nigh on impossible.
     
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  6. Luca

    Luca Academy Graduate

    Wouldn’t have thought so - Struber picked Senft when he was at Vienna off a shortlist; he’d likely do the same should he get the job
     
  7. hornetfan

    hornetfan Academy Graduate

    Some other people on this forum have suggested that Adam Leventhal may no longer have access to information from inside Watford. I do not know, but I must admit that I wondered - when reading "Why Watford have not yet hired a head coach" plus other recent articles in the Athletic - whether he is still ITK. A great deal of the information in that article was either already known or could have been surmised. However, he is probably the best source that we have had since the retirement of Oliver Phillips and the recruitment of Kevin Affleck by the club.
     
  8. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    And Burnsy now of course ;)
     
  9. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I think he’s got sources - but he gets fed what the club are prepared to let him know.
     
  10. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    You've forgotten ITK Tim,Tom,Ming,Ping and of course Pong!
     
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  11. hornetfan

    hornetfan Academy Graduate

    “Last season, Gerhard was writing his diploma for the UEFA Pro Licence and his topic was something I have given lectures about. We were put in touch, we met for a coffee and we had a very good chat. We kept in touch and, when the season finished and my contract was running out at Austria Vienna, he took over at Wolfsberger and brought me in as coach. Then we both came to Barnsley.” (Max Senft quoted in the Barnsley Chronicle)

    "Having previously worked with Austria Vienna prior to his move to Wolfsberger AC, Max built up a strong relationship with Struber in their homeland and his tactical knowledge and use of football analytics is considered a huge part of their success at Wolfsberger." (Barnsley FC website) It is difficult to judge how important was the role played by Senft in their success at Barnsley last season.
     
  12. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Clearly AL is not Gino's righthand man. He doesn't have anymore knowledge within Watford than any other journalist I suspect. However, he's not some chancer who just posts things without reason. He works for SkySports or did...not sure if he's still with them, but he's obviously got good contacts within the game.

    Watford are quite a closed unit. The team is small and very guarded. It makes it very difficult for anyone to know what's going on, but he must know people that are on the fringes who he trusts. This is where I think he gets a lot of information from. Today's announcement about Giraldi leaving his post seemed pretty certain. When he's guessing he uses words like "it's believed" or "it's expected" before a sentence.

    Where he can get good scoops is from player agents. There are usually two sides to a transfer. The selling club and buying club. Now Watford are secretive, but it doesn't mean the other club is. This is how stories leak out and I think this is how he gets a lot of his information. Of course the club throws him a bone every now and then, like the kit release date being tomorrow. I've not seen that posted anywhere else, so the club must have told him this.
     
  13. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    So is it saying its edging more towards Struber or not?
     
  14. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    It does seem like he'll have been a loss for sure. That would definitely put an extra doubt in my mind about Struber.
     
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  15. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    The article? Not as such.

    The crux of the article:
    • Some members of the clubs hierarchy are on holiday.
    • The clubs outlook is ‘rest, reflect and don’t rush’ and as such an appointment isn’t expected until next week some time.
    • Informal discussions with candidates are ongoing and the owner, chairman and Giaretta will settle unanimously on a final candidate and the settle final contractual matters.
    • A series of interviews is unlikely.
    • Struber and Ivic first names mentioned as ‘leading candidates’ and suggests both will be waiting to hear news of our plans.
    • Both are at home in Salzburg and Greece. Ivic has other offers whilst Struber could be offered a new deal at Barnsley.
    • Giaretta on ‘cusp’ of replacing Giraldi as Technical Director - Giraldi will move into a new position possible focussed on scouting.
     
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  16. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Keep trying.
     
  17. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I was also thinking that most of what Leventhal was saying was just basically summarising what has already been said on this forum, does he really know any more than the rest of us?

    I'm not so sure he does :p
     
  18. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Thank you for that.
     
  19. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    There has been a lot of talk on here about Struber becoming our new manager, but I would be a little concerned if we do appoint him. The main reason being that his right hand man has quit and gone back to Austria, apparently for family reasons.

    I'm talking about Senft who a lot of people have been saying might well have been the power behind the throne? Therefore would it be safe to appoint Struber without his right hand man, you have to wonder :confused:
     
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  20. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Excellent point. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned this before.
     
  21. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    It's not that there are no women. It's that they are all bearded like the men, so it's hard to tell them apart.
     
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  22. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    This is very interesting, where did you get this information from?
     
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  23. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I read it either on line or in a paper, but before you ask I can't remember exactly where :)
     
  24. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I can help him you with this one. It was online. On this thread. About 10 comments before you made it.
     
  25. Nice Tolkien reference.
     
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  26. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    So it is, but that is not here I saw it, I saw it last week sometime, but as I said I'm not sure where :cool:
     
  27. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    "Not more ****ing elves!"
     
  28. MarlonsCellMate

    MarlonsCellMate Reservist

    Can't wait for Andre Gray to be defeated by the Balrog and become Andre White.
     
  29. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    This is my favourite ever LOTR / WFC crossover post.
    :D
     
  30. Was this just after he yells at Mariappa "You cannot pass!"?
     
  31. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    I see the latest link is to some Dutch
    douchebag who got chucked by Brentford after 10 games

    Exciting times
     
  32. The Recluse

    The Recluse Reservist

    I think that started from another fake account, @Jacquel24715113.
    She's a 'Former EFL football agent. Mother of 3 beautiful kids. Brentford local team but Arsenal are my one true love. Views are my own'

    My favourite tweet of hers was this one -

    New frontrunner in Bournemouth's manager race as the Cherries have offered Watfor captain Troy Deeney the managers position. He is keen to continue playing, more to follow. #wfc #afcb
    (https://twitter.com/Jacquel24715113/status/1291486867414818817?s=20)

    I'm gutted she hasn't followed up with more news yet!
     
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  33. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    The Pozzos must have been impressed by his longevity
     
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  34. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    So if the news of Fatty being "demoted" to scouting is true, does that mean he will be going door to door in Watford "scouting" for possible new fans and apologising to existing fans about work last season? And the season before that....
     
  35. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    I've noticed that Struber is drifting on the odds front.
     
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