DAY 2 - Werewolf 2018

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Day 2 Lynching

Poll closed Jun 5, 2018.
  1. Cassetti's Beard

    5.9%
  2. Daft Row

    76.5%
  3. domthehornet

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. HappyHornet24

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Harrow Orn

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Meh

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. miked2006

    5.9%
  8. nornironhorn

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. NorwayHornet

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Optimistichornet

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Phillipine Orn

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. PowerJugs

    5.9%
  13. Squibba

    5.9%
  14. steve harrow

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Steve Leo Beleck

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. wfcmoog

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  17. With A Smile

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Not disregarding the two messages at all. As I have just said, I believe that fitst message to be the seers, so I am not going for Daft Row. You are my main suspect regardless of how flimsy my reasons are.
     
  2. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I can see your point, however, if we voted for someone outside of the messages, unless we strike gold and they turn out to be evil, we learn nothing. If we kill DR and he turns out good, then we are far better informed, IMO.

    I agree we have little to go on at this point, but we need to use the messages, not speculation to narrow down the suspects. As I say, we may have to hang a few villagers to find a wolf.
     
  3. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Surely if Squibba was a wolf he wouldn't be stupid enough to kill Cthulu yesterday, especially as he was the only one to have a run in with him.

    That would be beyond amateur for a wolf (or possibly a very brave attempt at a double bluff!)

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  4. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    I'm not sure we should get too hung up about the timing of today's messages - presumably they were both late as Otter was at a meeting for a couple of hours? The only timing I think is relevant is Daft Row being viewed as evil in message 2 so soon after being named as good in message 1. With the number of players left, it seems too coincidental.
     
  5. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    From memory, you don't know if the harlot stays with you. I seem to remember PowerJugs stayed with me when he was the harlot but I didn't know until it was revealed at the end of the game. So he knew I was good but I (as usual, some might say) knew nothing.
     
  6. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    To not vote based on the messages is...well... Daft!

    It for the very least could confirm Norway's alleigencies as good and confirms which message style is which.
     
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  7. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    There's a time stamp attached as to when Otter received both messages.
     
  8. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Correct. Unless Meh says he's stayed with them the person won't know. If Meh is unlucky and stays with a chosen villager or a traitor they die with their accumulated knowledge.
     
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  9. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Agree that it's odd to be basing votes of little to nothing.
     
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  10. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    Thanks Moog
     
  11. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Yes I realise that but we don't know when the Seer asked Otter for info. If they didn't put their viewing request in until after Otter was in the meeting, it would delay the messages.
     
  12. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Daft Row saif he was happy to be viewed by the seer. If he was evil I severely doubt he'd have done that.

    He would have just tried to slip away from the conversation un noticed rather than continue to ask that.

    Vote for him if you want but I reckon he and Norway are good.

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  13. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    This is a bit crappy. I think Daft Row is probably good as I'm leaning towards the second message each day being the Wolf. But... it's hard not to lynch someone who's been named when there is so little else to go on this early.
     
  14. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Or it could be a bold bluff, though I agree on balance it's less likely of the two.

    Main problem is if we lynch a villager who's good instead, you've aided Evil anyway and DR will face increased scrutiny until he's inevitably lynched because of it.
     
  15. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    Yes it is awkward , but logically if you believe message 1 is the Seer you cant vote for DR , If you vote for DR then in essence you are saying message 2 is the seer (incidentally I am struggling with that).
     
  16. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    But we HAVE to vote for someone.
     
  17. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Wasn't Meh saying that he wanted DR viewed by the seer?

    Not saying Daft Row is anything, but saying you don't mind being viewed, when someone has said they think you should be viewed is evidence of nothing.
     
  18. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Did CB ever give a reason for not voting yesterday?
     
  19. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I didn't know he didn't.

    Wouldn't he be excluded from the game for missing a vote?
     
  20. Daft Row

    Daft Row Reservist

    Stop bullying me.
     
  21. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    hi villagers

    Nearly finished tidying the streets. Will be back home at about 6.30 to 7 so will catch up then

    WAS
     
  22. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Quite a lot commented on the fact that 18 voted but for some reason no-one ever said who.

    Unfortunately for Daft Row, who I believe is probably innocent, it would be mad not to lynch him tonight but it's worth remembering things like this as we go forward

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  23. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    I forgot - Otter did message me to remind me but didn't see it till too late, think Otter gave me the benefit of the doubt this time.
     
  24. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    We have no evidence. Just hunches and theories. I have gone with mine.

    Go with yours instead of questioning everyone elses!
     
  25. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Good observation. Could be nothing, but could be something.
     
  26. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Because we have nothing concrete to go on, I'm putting my vote on DR. Not because I think he's evil but because if we don't and we lynch a Good villager (Given the numbers left that's likely to occur) he'll face increased scrutiny and will potentially make clarifying further messages difficult as we wouldn't be able to say in full confidence whether he is Good or Evil.

    Sorry DR
     
  27. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    You mean, don't play the game, don't try and reason, don't try and work things out? Just sit, barely posting over two days then fly off the handle when anyone tries to question your random and unjustified accusations? OK mate. Will do.
     
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  28. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Lol. That made me chuckle.

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  29. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Odd ain't it. I'm not for one minute throwing accusations at Harrow.

    Just odd. If Daft does turn out to be Evil then this has to be revisited to some degree.
     
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  30. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Eh? I know you're not. Moog was commenting on how my theory wasn't very good. All I have said is that I have gone with it, and he should go with his.

    Nobody has accused me of anything. I know that.



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  31. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I've placed my vote now for Daft Row, can't imagine much will happen the rest of the day to make me change my mind.
     
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  32. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    To be fair, that wasn't exactly what I said. I was just saying that someone saying "I don't mind if the Seer views me" in a game of Werewolf is as credible as a politician accused of scandal who declares "I have nothing to hide"

    I also clarified by saying that I am not convinced that DR is EVIL, but that isn't based on him saying he doesn't mind being viewed.
     
  33. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Go big or go home...

    I think miked2006 is the traitor. He would know the identities of the wolves. I really don't think the second messages each day are the Seer therefore I think Daft Row is Good. Miked2006 has been nudging away, trying to get everyone to think that the people who posted later yesterday are more suspicious. I know I'm good, I think Daft Row is good and if that's the case the Traitor would know that too but it would serve his purposes to suggest otherwise.

    Additionally, his message this morning along the lines of "that's what I would do if I was the seer" was of no help at all, as it tipped the wolf off to something that would've been useful to include in a message. Finally, he's said he can't play much as he's busy at work, so I think he's being a more bold traitor than he would've been otherwise.

    Few hours left, but my vote is heading towards Mike unless something drastically changes (like I've missed what roles there are, and there is no traitor...)
     
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  34. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I'm tempted to vote for you, just for using this awful phrase.
     
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  35. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    So your suggesting that Harrow could be the traitor in this scenario? Would he really be so bold as to pin his colours to the mast so early on?

    For what its worth at the moment I will be voting for Daft Row due to the lack in other evidence around other players. At least we learn something about the providence of the messages so far based on lynching Daft row. It would pretty much confirm Norway to be good, if we took both of the second messages as the wolf.
     
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