"Two thirds of UK women' harassed"

Just stumbled across this article on the BBC Website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35753198

I find this survey quite ridiculous. Utter rubbish and I'm interested to know everybody else's thoughts. I also really doubt that 35% of females in this survey have suffered 'unwanted sexual touching' in public.

Surely I'm not the only one who thinks this survey is utter garbage?

 

I'd say it's about !0% truth and 90% Munchausen's

 

42% of women would prefer to take a taxi rather than rely on public transport after a night on the lash, nothing to do with those ridiculous stilettos then?

 

"Unwanted sexual attention can include instances of wolf-whistling, sexual comments being made, staring, and indecent exposure."

That pretty much sums up how accurate the poll is when staring is considered as unwanted sexual attention.

 

I take it you're cool with it when your wife/girlfriend/daughter is out and some sleazebag is staring at her all night then?

 

I'd be be worried if she enjoyed it .... otherwise who cares?

 

i would view it as A form of harassment.

 

hmmmm.. who cares? let me think now....

 

I've lived on the continent where men don't treat their women as possessions and women are usually quite capable of standing up for themselves.

 

So you'd only mind if she's not bothered, but if she is bothered by it then it's fine with you. Interesting.

I know before that girls I've been with have had comments from guys when leaving pubs/clubs which they didn't like, just because they're dressed up and going out doesn't mean they're trying to pick up men.

 

how very continental!

 

I'm surprised anyone is surprised. Just use your imagination about blokes you know or see on the street who leer and comment. They may not be the majority of blokes but they can get around.

Staring is certainly something - we don't like it when males stare at us males - it feels aggressive, it's natural not to like it. There are very different stares - the wow caught my eye moment is different to the one which is essentially offering co.ck as highlighted in this vid.

[video=youtube;b1XGPvbWn0A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A[/video]

It's a reality though isn't it - we instinctively also don't think it's a good idea for women to walk home on their own late at night. It's not because there might be a Gruffalo
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By the way Jumbo consider it social science rather than assume it's taking offence on behalf of others. On the whole men's behaviour is much better than it has been.

 

This thread proves why the survey results are correct. Imagine being a woman for a while. Imagine that you're quite attractive and that wherever you go, men take that as an invitation to make suggestions, stare at your private parts, or treat you like a sexual object because it fulfils some sort of fantasy for them.

Imagine that every so often, you'll find yourself in an uncomfortable position with a man who is more powerful than you and nobody else will be around.

I've spoken to enough women to know that it's not just rape victims who have had sticky situations which have left them shaken and scared.

But it's all just banter I suppose. Never mind the nightmares, the fear of being alone in certain situations or the agoraphobia that women I know have gone through from being harassed. They probably all just asked for it by wearing a push up bra.

 

Mrs Moose was walking to work the other day when some bloke leaned out of van and shouted "NICE ****" an accurate but somewhat gratuitous observation. She just shrugged it off as an unusual and somewhat nostalgic event (we are neither of us as young as we used to be).

When she was in her teens and early twenties that sort of thing would be endless and would drive her mad. Nevertheless she did give in and give me that first date.

 

Both men and women engage in this sort of thing. The main difference is most men don't care if on the receiving end.

 

You called? I don't have any strong views on this either way, although a couple of blondes I went out with years ago wore short skirts showing their stocking tops. In those circumstances I'm not sure how you can blame men in the street staring? It's hardly an offence is it if it goes no further?

 

Ok so the guy walking alongside her was well creepy but IMO the rest were just guys being guys, harassment would be when they don't let it go. If women don't want to be noticed why do they grow hips and boobs?

 

Lesbian

 

The difference is, if an unwanted woman tries to grab my joint on a deserted train carriage and won't take no for an answer, I can smack her in the face if she tries to force her hands down my pants.

 

It would get tedious wouldn't it? If you couldn't just walk around minding your own business without endless comments on the state of your booty GF? By lairy blokes. Day in day out? And that's just the background static to the typical incidents that HappyHornet relates.

I don't think acknowledging it means all of us guys are bad nor that we can't chat, flirt and generally make whoopee with the ladeez. There is though a male mentality some have, like some men have around violence, that isn't our friend.

 

If you are walking along with Mrs Moose and someone came up to you and said that your missus looks like a Moose, would you feel proud? ;D

 

Those incidents that HH mentioned were all pretty bad and would obviously make any women feel uncomfortable, or frightened. There cant be many posters on here that would suggest that would be right.

What annoys me is that certain groups try to lump those type of incidents into the same taboo category as the occasional appreciative glance that Moose and HH were also referring to, or "banter" done in the right environment.

Personally, if I wanted to compliment someone at work on "looking nice today", I dont think it does any harm. But some would ask the question. "Would you say that you a bloke?"

No, of course I wouldn't but I dont look upon males and females in the same way. I cant help that, it is just the way I was made!

 

My two sisters were talking to me about how they're approached and catcalled on the street quite often walking to and from work. They were talking about one particular time the day before wen one of them was walking home from work and I said something to the effect of 'that's crazy, what a weirdo' to which they replied 'it happens a lot.'

It truly happens more than a lot of us might realise, and it shouldn't just be shrugged off.

People...

 

Do the women at work ever say 'Hi ZZ, have you done something different with your beard today? If so they might be sex pests imo.

 

Leggings, how the **** am I, as a full blooded male not meant to look? On a serious note though Moog got it right.

 

Whatever floats your boat.

 

But there is a lot of it about - not just in this country
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ressed-to-avoid-inflaming-racial-tension.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-mob-went-rampage-causing-821-complaints.html

 

Maybe *you* could. That's not true of everyone and is a dangerous assumption.

 

To be fair, I 100% prefer to take a taxi home rather than rely on public transport. And that's without (well, most of the time) the stilettos.

 

I am ogling lasciviously at your post if that makes you feel any better.

 

You miss the point

 

don't knock it till you've tried it (yes I am a closet lesbian )

 

I doubt this article is far from the reality, sadly. I'm really glad I don't have a sister.