I feel sorry for him.:.really wished it had worked out for him and he had a season at his boyhood team and been the hero will only ever have respect for him as a player. Will have no respect for the coaches that continued to play him when he was so far past his sell by date that he’d curdled
Spot on. Such a shame he's just complete gash now. If only his boyhood team were someone in the 4th division. Still a Watford legend though, no doubt about it. And the first one since Mooney in my eye.
Peaky Blinders went a bit sh1t at the end it seems. Telling Troy he cant fit in the shirt is a bit harsh on the big lad though.
I'm worried we might get a points deduction when he picks himself, we don't have many points to play with!
I don't - had he left us a few years earlier he could have probably managed a couple of decent seasons at Birmingham helping them to mid-table respectability and at a stretch a first-round playoff defeat. But instead he stuck around here when he simply wasn't good enough for what we needed and repeatedly stunk the place out, while acting billy big bollox and blocking our ability to sign another decent centre forward in his place e.g. Toney.
what a pile of old bollox….all players are contracted and leave when the club decides they should be sold. So you think that the reason we didn’t get Toney is because Deeney refused to be sold when the Pozzos determined his time was up? Or do you think that either each coach/our owners decided to keep him or nobody wanted to buy him? as for “repeatedly stinking the place out” what do you know as a fact that he did to warrant that quote?
Having Deeney's fat (wages) on our books likely would have made it more difficult for us to afford Toney. I wouldn't have been surprised either if his ego got in the way of a move somehow. It was clearly a mistake by the Pozzos to give Deeney a 5 year contract in 2016 but they have form in keeping over the hill players way too long. Of course one can't blame Deeney for accepting it, but when he was no longer good enough for us the fact that he would have had to take a major wage cut to drop down a division to a club like Birmingham would have made it much more difficult for him to accept. Still, had Deeney been willing to take a wage cut earlier to join his boyhood club then that could have helped. Instead he's now there when he's even more crap and despite costing a lower wage is still not worth what Brum are getting from him. What I know for a fact is seeing him repeatedly turn up for pre-season significantly overweight and then not be match fit yet even months in to the season - a problem which even he himself has admitted to. Birmingham fans have also criticised him this season for lacking in professionalism and being unfit. I also know for a fact that his goals per minute in our relegation season was even worse than Dennis, Cucho and Sarr have all managed in this one, and comparable with the crap Josh King, despite him playing CF and in an arguably more talented squad. I also know he increasingly did completely idiotic acts like getting himself sent off within minutes of coming on vs Arsenal. You can also add his many toe-curling interviews with the press about how great he was and how Arsenal lack cajones etc. which tended to almost always come back to bite him. Plus the increasing distraction of his Talk5hite career.
would you willingly leave your job and take a pay cut? He was contracted to Watford. The fault lies with the club as for the other negativity I will remember him as the first Watford player to score 20+ goals in three consecutive seasons, his penalties, THAT goal, our fourth highest goal scorer of all time and being our player of the season a number of times. but you remember him for how you want…
I did say the club was at fault for his contract extension, but that doesn't change that he was stinking the place out while he was on it. Also, if he was so keen on helping out Brum he might still have considered it earlier. Regardless, him being highly paid for being crap here is no reason to feel sorry for him either. Those seasons were in the Champ, and yes most of his goals later on were only penalties. The first part of his career here was very good, and had he left earlier one way or another I'd have remembered him much more positively. But his performances and general attitude in his last few seasons were very far from those of someone worthy of being considered a club legend. He tarnished his reputation. He's now carried his same crap performances and crap attitude to Birmingham and is justifiably ruining his reputation with them as well. Had he joined them while he still had some vague semblance of being a footballer he could have contributed, but he was even shocking with us last season in the Champ already so I've no idea what he was expecting to do there. So I'm not sorry for him whatsoever, the criticism is entirely warranted.
The truth is, what else is there to talk about? Especially when you live in hope of being invited to Gino’s Supporters Lair.
Errrmmm, the season in the Champ after Troy got relegated with us he only managed 1 goal from open play.... Based on King's last couple of years, and that he's also getting relegated with us now, that's what he's most likely to replicate. Troy's 20 goals were almost a decade ago. King's decent goalscoring seasons are also in the past.
Popping up a few times on MOTD now. Really seems to be honest and not afraid to give his opinion. Had a brutal assessment of Leicester's defender S*y*nc* for example last night @Filbert Wonder what he might say about us!?
Nowt as he may want the manager's seat and his pseudodad Fuxbury will probably try it to pacify the violent protests we will surely see from the 1881 at the end of the season. Watch this space and be disappointed.
It is amazing what some guys think will impress other guys and girls, and improve their standing and respect on this forum.
Yes and the forum support team is here should you receive any abuse from a well-known poster for openly admitting to having a shockingly-low bodycount that's sub 4 figures.
If he's still getting his coaching badges I would glady take him back in an assistant coach sort of role, if VI was up for it of course. Let's be honest, most of Watford just want a character with his voice back at our club. All we have now is timid mice.
The comments of “get him back” have started . https://twitter.com/WFCAidan/status/1660734954509160455
Ismael said he wanted to bring in hungry players. You see all the clues are there……just need to join the dots.