The B Word

Discussion in 'Politics 2.0' started by sydney_horn, Sep 29, 2021.

  1. sydney_horn

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  2. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  3. V Crabro

    V Crabro Reservist

    Nick Ferrari "I'm not sure I was wrong about Brexit but I am sure this wasn't the Brexit I voted for"
    LBC Caller; "Which Brexit did you vote for, Nick?"
    Nick: "I refuse to debate Brexit anymore, it's not 2016..."
     
  4. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Gerry Murphy, the chairman of Burberry, spelling out to Rishi Sunak how Brexit and his own policies as Chancellor have diminished Britain.

    https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1650460728028004352?s=20

    The thing isn't that Mr Murphy is spelling out some hard truths about the damage to Britain's economy and prestige, it's that Sunak stands there with an inane grin on his face.

    Imagine if this happened in football and someone who understood the ins and outs of the game laid it on the line to a manager presiding over a relegation campaign and that manager stood there, shifting his weight from foot to foot, smiling vacantly with a facial expression that said: "when will all this be over?" Not sure there'd be the same minimal coverage of the event or the same 'oh well' apathy from the public.
     
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  5. lm_wfc

    lm_wfc First Team


    The name is also extremely ironic.

    Instead of the new defender which is all soft with rounded corners (bloody snowflakes and their science), the Grenadier is meant to be a REAL off roader for the common man not a Chelsea tractor for mums.

    But it's named after a Belgravia pub.
     
  6. Your occasional reminder of what they promised:
     
  7. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Don’t mention the B word.

     
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  8. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Wow, we got a trade deal with Borneo? Amazing stuff, must have missed that.
     
  9. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Vast majority of those that were too young to vote in 2016 want to rejoin the EU. It's just a matter of time....

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  10. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    It always was about demographics - 2016 was the year of the start of the first significant amount of EU kids who had grown up (been born?) here amongst their 'native' UK peers. Be interesting to see whether it will be economic or demographic factors (the core Brexit vote is dying off and not being replaced) that causes a 'rethink' of out newly regained sovereignty.
     
  11. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    It will also be interesting to see if young people's attitudes still move to the right as they age.

    I suspect the dwindling influence of the right wing press may mean that the "traditional" shift doesn't happen so much. The youth no longer read the Sun or browse their parents Daily Mail/Express. They get their information from much wider sources these days.

    The pro-EU anti Tory bias within the youth may be more likely to stay with them as they mature now.

    We shall see.
     
  12. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    I hope so, because the economic damage will have to be pretty bad before 'we' admit the we made a 'poor' decision.
     
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  13. Also, your shift to the right used to be as your personal circumstances improved and you wanted to hang on to your newfound gains, like house, fancy car. Young people are not seeing those gains in anything like the way they were, and in fact resentment at an older generation pulling the ladder up in all manner of ways may even provoke a leftward shift.

    Brexit of course is completely different to this traditional rightward shift. If you were a remainer, the only reason you would shift to a more leave viewpoint given the way it has happened and the evidence of your eyes and wallet, would be mental illness, some political grift, or being kicked in the head by a horse.

     
  14. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Will be better when we get rid of those EU laws.

     
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  15. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    I’ve never understood this phenomenon of ‘moving to the right as you get older’.
     
  16. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    For shtis and giggles the 'Bylines' group have collated all of their 'bits' on the various freeports that are going up around the country:

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    https://twitter.com/YorksBylines/status/1654549430719193090
     
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  17. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

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  18. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

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  19. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

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    Rejoining looking pretty inevitable at the moment.
     
  20. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

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  21. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    I think the funniest thing about his little tantrum is his claim that Andy McDonald is hiding behind parliamentary privilege and, if it weren't for that, he'd sue him.

    Many replies point out that he could sue Private Eye for making the same claims. Silence.

    It's the classic having your mates "hold you back" in a fight. "I would teach him a lesson if I could....honest". :D
     
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  22. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Brexiteers spreading the bullshyte love:

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  23. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Do we need to add Kemi Badenoch and the Conservative Government to the growing list of anti-democratic, leftie remoaners for deciding not to rip up thousands of EU laws like they said they were going to?

    Or is the penny dropping that it's not only pointless but it's time-consuming and expensive, rather like Brexit itself.

    For something as vital and simple as independence, strength and sovereignty they sure seem to be making a right old mess of it. Almost as if it had about as much substance as a carrier bag full of lukewarm air in the first place.

    Next stop in this maze of madness:

    – It's all a WEF conspiracy.
    – What is?
    – Everything. Everything is a WEF conspiracy.
    – What's the WEF?
    – It's a bad thing, that's what it is, and I'm against it.
     
  24. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    You've missed out 'and it ain't British, y'know'.
     
  25. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

  26. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    If it's not Brexit that's a drag on the economy then it's the Government's policy. So perhaps they'd like the spotlight shone in *that* direction.

    I was doing a few sums yesterday, looking at the impact of the interest rate rises on mortgage payments and working out how many tens of thousands of pounds extra people will be spending as a result of the chaos of the past six months.

    (USwitch and Martin Lewis's moneysavingexpert site both have some fantastic tools that really lay the figures bare, both in terms of the hundreds of pounds a month extra and the thousands, and potentially tens of thousands extra over the term of a 15-20-year mortgage it's going to cost people. All money for absolutely nothing, of course. And all, currently, hidden from view because the pain is being experienced gradually as people's fixed term mortgages or rental periods expire gradually. There's no single moment where the whole country wakes up and goes... 'WTF?')

    Of course, a boomer will be along in a moment to talk about historic low interest rates (which is true) and remind us that they paid 16% in the 80s.

    But the problem with that argument is that the historic low interest rates did next to nothing other than overheat the housing market yet again and ease the pressure on those who were left exposed by the 2008 crisis.
     
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  27. Bwood_Horn

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  31. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    The Opposition finally getting involved (cue screams from the Tories about "...destroying jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"):

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    https://twitter.com/ThatTimWalker/status/1658717954576379904

    C&P of that article for research purposes:

     
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  32. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    There's a lot of wishful thinking when it comes to freeports and I don't think many have grasped the incredible consequences of handing over great chunks of the country to private enterprise. Spell out to people what it means for workers and many people seem to think: "Well, that won't be allowed." Or "I'd just get another job if I didn't like the T&Cs."

    But that's precisely the point. Freeing up whole areas of enterprise from pesky government regulations (which are in place to protect ordinary workers and residents) means handing all the rights to the corporations and none to the people. That's the aim and it's the last idea they've got to wring wealth out of the masses.
     
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  33. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    It was the ultimate aim of Brexit for those who dreamt it up.
     
  34. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Agreed it's as if they haven't seen Tenet.

    (I have 3 times and I still don't get it)
     
  35. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    aint the best hoo but hes alright m8

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    Summary of better Whos - only those who had exciting and action-packed youths will understand this (ie 99% of Whovians).
     

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