[SIGNED loan] Henrique Araujo

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by LeedsOrn, Jan 18, 2023.

  1. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    It would be most Watfordy to do so
     
  2. reids

    reids First Team

    Think he'll flourish once Louza begins starting games. Would've probably finished the 2 big chances Davis had yesterday.
     
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  3. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Will he ever be picked though ?
     
  4. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Based on what?

    He had a great chance to score vs Blackburn, but instead chose to overhit a sideways pass to Sarr.
     
  5. reids

    reids First Team

    Based on him scoring more last season (albeit most in the Portuguese Segunda) than Davis has in his entire senior career
     
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  6. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    It is ridiculous how quick people will write a player off. Give him a chance, and, I know this sounds absolutely ridiculous, maybe support him?
     
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  7. VR94

    VR94 Academy Graduate

    I reckon Davis will start on Saturday and then we'll see much more of Araujo in home games against bottom-half teams.
     
  8. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    You don't think 180 minutes of playing time in a new country is enough time to judge a player???
     
  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Better than the 0 mins yardstick we generally use.
     
  10. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    There's no benefits to the club in giving him a chance when he's not up to it and only here so briefly - it's not as if he's meant to be some work experience kid on a jolly, we need to be getting results right now to try and get promotion.

    Rather that than pi55 our promotion chances up the wall by repeatedly giving him minutes just for the sake of it while he does nothing before he gets sent back to Benfica.
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2023
  11. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Yeah based on that yardstick many on here expected he was going to tear the league apart.
     
  12. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    It appears he's set for the Bayo role of only being sent on to try and poach a goal when we're chasing games, with it still to be seen how effective he'll be at that.
     
  13. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    How can you know he's not up to it?

    We'd be giving him minutes over Assombalonga and Davis. Hardly sacrificing a bundle of goals.
     
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  14. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Davis is at least alright at holding the ball up.

    Araujo really struggled vs Blackburn - Davis came on at half time and seemed miles better than him, which is a massive concern considering how mediocre he is.

    I would give Araujo minutes ahead of Assombalonga if we need to make a sub while chasing the game and needing to score, but in games like last night when we're already ahead and need to keep the ball then Assombalonga made a lot more sense.

    He'll likely get such minutes when we're chasing the game, but he'll need to need to improve at a rapid rate to get to a point where he can make a major impact in them before his loan ends.

    If we'd have had him on loan from the summer window for the whole season then I'd have been a bit more hopeful that he'd have a chance of eventually coming good, but for where we're at right now it seems a long shot that it's enough time.

    Archer has come in at Boro and straight away got 3 goals and 2 assists in 5 games. Given our issues with goalscoring this season and that we're in competition with Boro for promotion, we needed to bring in someone capable of having a similar kind of impact.
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2023
  15. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    While it's probably true that he's an upgrade on who we have, with our current unbalanced squad, it's not a guarantee that he'd have been a success if he joined us
     
  16. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    If only he could be like Porteous and settle into a new country right away :(
     
  17. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Just undone your whole argument then?
     
  18. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Porteous was already used to **** weather and people mangling the English language
     
  19. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Was kind of the point
     
  20. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    How?

    We needed someone who was an upgrade on Davis to be first choice CF. This guy really doesn't seem like he'll be that this season.

    Instead we've got someone who will more likely have to do with attempting to replicate the Bayo role, where it's unclear how good he'll even be at it.
     
  21. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    It was very obvious from our game at Boro though that he is currently better than Araujo.
     
  22. hjw

    hjw Reservist

    I would love to see him up front with Davies, But Slav doesn't seem to want to play with 2 up top
     
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  23. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    After his first 4 games Archer had 0 goals. Hopefully their fans didn't write him off as a goalscorer after that.
     
  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I guess Archer had the advantage of having shown last season that he is very effective in this league.
     
  25. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    You may have more resource to do this - I guess many of Araujo’s first team appearances at Benfica were off the bench. But in his time there for both 1st team and B Team, was he usually paired with another striker or was he used as a lone forward?

    Seems to be a very popular opinion of him on here that he simply can’t play up front alone - but would be good to see whether that passes muster on his career to date (I accept the Championship may require a level of adaptation).
     
  26. VR94

    VR94 Academy Graduate

    He did play two up top before Pedro was fit. How would you suggest fitting Pedro, Sema, Sarr and a front two into the team?
     
  27. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Could Pedro play as the other striker upfront, ie drop Davis ?
     
  28. reids

    reids First Team

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    This is league only (so no CL etc) but a majority of his mins across his career in Portugal were as a lone forward in a 433. Most of this was with the B team as his league mins with Benfica were pretty limited, but he played 30 mins in a 442 this season with their first team. He played 138 mins last season and all of that was in a 433 or 4231
     
  29. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    He did play as a lone frontman a bit under Ivic and did an admirable job, although seeing as the most viable alternative to JP in the hole is Asprilla, I don't think it'll happen as Bilic doesn't seem to like Asprilla
     
  30. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    He was good at Reading, created a goal and also crested a decent chance for himself in the first half. Burnley was not the game for him and Blackburn he did struggle to be fair. I would play him over Britt though who just looks unfit and won't be here next season either
     
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  31. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I guess it depends on the match situation and whether we need someone to hold the ball up / kill time/ slow the game down, or are chasing an equalizer/winner and need someone to nick a goal.
     
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  32. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    As BA lumbered forward on Monday,overtaken on Pinner Hill by the milk float I was trying to remember if he was always so immobile.

    I came to the conclusion the only thing I recalled was the conga song!
     
  33. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    He used to be pretty mobile. Now he's just a lump.
     
  34. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    His first 3 appearances were a grand total of 64 minutes off the sub's bench - and one of those was against Brighton in the FA Cup when they were already losing 3-1. And he was arriving at Boro having played even less senior football recently than Araujo.

    His 4th appearance was his 1st start, and it was the game against us where he was excellent.
     
  35. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    It took 275 minutes of football for Archer to score his first goal for a Boro team that are flying. Araujo has played 183 minutes for a disjointed Watford side. I'm just saying it's early to be writing him off in the way you are doing.
     
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