Saying the German 20 Century Uber baddies didn’t lie about the Jews, to gee up the mob, in one post, and pleasuring themselves over nazi Farage Porn in another. Threads gone mad.
The "Great Communicator" shows-off his room reading skills: https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1649331767327825920
Bizarre video from Farage’s show where he begins to strip to balding, anti-vaccine conspiraloons Right Said Fred’s I’m Too Sexy in what looks like the lounge of a care home, while Harry Redknapp Spoiler What a ****! looks on. Warning: this video contains content some people may find disturbing. From 4 minutes.
I could think of one 'politician' who was useless and led to the fiasco of Brexit: https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1658497589711347714 Don't look at that thread as it contains some truly hurtful images. Like this one: And this one:
That’s pretty random. Almost like you can’t face reality, so you have to make it more palatable, to you, by translating it into German and implying he’s a would be 88. What is it about Germans that you dislike so much that you choose to use them as an analogue for fascism? And why would you want to be in the EU if YOU think the most powerful country within the block are just a bunch of former nazis? Just wondering.
The really sad thing about these vox pops is that the people that wanted Brexit still have the same moans and gripes about poor services, things getting worse and struggling financially that they did prior to 2016. And yet they still listen to the rightwing press and parrot the reasons they serve up to them as to why that is. The same press that told them that it was all the EUs fault are now telling them it's foreigners coming on boats, people working from home and the lazy feckless youth. And they just repeat it. These are the people the opposition parties need to reach. It shouldn't be difficult to show them how the richest in our society have got richer while the poor have got poorer and public services have declined. Surely even the most devoted Sun reader will look up and think that at least some of the mess around them can be attributed to 13 years of Tory rule and Brexit?
I completely agree. While I try not to let these videos bother me, that could just as easily be my mum in that video and the frustrating conversations I have with her. Of course, I’d be questioning what’s she’s doing on a park bench in Clacton?
Picking up on a tiny part of your post, the gradual morphing of the 'working from home' debate into another culture war offshoot is pretty fascinating. Obviously born out of Covid, which in itself meant mixed signals as government initially pushed it hard before the fringe Rees-Mogg type loonies started to push back against it. Anyone with half a brain knows that’s because the big commercial property landlords are crapping themselves about their inevitable financial armageddon, unless they can slow the transition down enough to reposition their portfolios. The first attempts to frame the anti-WFH thing as something the target voter should be up in arms about fell flat. They tried to say ‘won’t somebody think of the dry cleaners and coffee shops that rely on office workers’, but target voter didn’t give a stuff because s/he’s not getting his suit dry cleaned or dropping a tenner a day on cappuccinos. And they tried to say it meant those people weren’t working, but that’s a lazy trope that’s easily proven to be false. So now the argument’s being shifted to the age-old politics of envy approach. I notice the usual noisy voices have started saying to Mr Builder or Mrs Lorry Driver, “you can’t work from home, so why should others be allowed to?” Obviously it suits the billionaire bosses like Elon Musk to be coming out with that but the usual suspects over here seem to be falling in behind him, especially after Starmer said Labour would back it.
Of course, try not to pay too much attention to the fact that Elon Musk, CEO of three companies, can only be physically on site for one of those CEO roles and therefore has to be performing at least two of the three roles remotely himself.
Why do the so called hard men of the right want to roll over and have their tummies tickled by Putin. Surely he's a bully and you stand up to bullies don't you? Either they are cowards or in Putin's pay....or both.
It"s funny, because one of the reasons for the EU's creation was to ensure Europe wouldn't see another World War.
Sacre bleu et quelle suprise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Le Pen’s far right served as mouthpiece for the Kremlin, says French parliamentary report Dogged by accusations of proximity to the Kremlin, Marine Le Pen’s far-right National Rally party had hoped to clear its name by setting up a parliamentary inquiry to investigate foreign interference in French politics. But a draft report on the committee’s findings, which was leaked to the press this week, shows the move backfired spectacularly, finding instead that Le Pen’s policy stances sometimes echo the “official language of Putin’s regime”.
I am struggling to see similarities between Adolf Hitler and Nigel Farage. Could anyone enlighten me?
Is that a joke? In case it is not, it goes way back. https://www.channel4.com/news/nigel-farage-ukip-letter-school-concerns-racism-fascism And carried on.
Certainly not a joke I cannot stand the man or agree with almost any of his views . However labelling other people is itself quite a controversial and possibly fascist thing itself We need to respect other people even when we strenuously disagree with what they believe. There are many millions of people you could describe as racist but not as fascist. If you study Hitler and Mussolini and how they behaved and what they did you would be hard pushed to be able to show Farage in the same light. My personal view is that it is lazy to stick a label on someone as if that label fully described them. That is what happens when you have any form of prejudice against any "group". Label someone and you take away their identity. I repeat I am no apologist for Farage but would be more convinced by a list of his words and actions to show what sort of person he is and no cheap label. Just my honest opinion and sorry if it upsets anyone
One of the key attributes of fascists working the democratic system is their ability to fly under the radar whilst simultaneously projecting what other fascists need to hear. But I don’t think you’ve read the article. He was a fascist at school. Has he changed? The poster, the endless obsession with immigration, the unwillingness to distance himself from Trump’s white supremacist buddies, from Putin’s authoritarianism and state murder, his problem with all liberal values etc. suggests not.
I agree with much of what you say but as he chanted Hitler Youth songs, including "gas em all", at school and was proud of his initials being the same as the National Front, I don't think the label is that cheap on this occasion.
Apologies but I am limited for time this evening but will attempt a quick response. He was accused by one or two teachers of being a Fasict at school. Their views are no more evidence of him being a fascist than your claim. I do not take the views of a few school teachers as evidence - more as evidence that they disliked him (possibly for good cause) but how many teachers have totally misunderstood their pupils who have gone on to prove them wrong. Also people do change. I considered myself a Communist at school but was young and naive. I changed. The poster is a deliberate copy of a Tory poster from an earlier era "Labour is not Working". He hated the EU for a variety of reasons - all of which I disagree with naturally as I was a Remainer and part of that was he believes immigration should be controlled. Again thousands if not more agree with that without being Fascist. He does not say end immigration of Jews or Blacks or any other group - he wanted ALL immigration controlled. Not a Nazi policy as they targeted groups.
Those are valid points of evidence but again I find very few people who are not more extreme when young and indulge in silly antics. Is Prince Harry a Fascist because he dressed up in a NAzi uniform and gave their salute?
If you gave examples of him decrying democracy and advocating a single party system and using violence against opponents and plotting in Beer Halls I would begin to be swayed.
I didn't create the thread so I can say why the title was chosen. But it's clear he was a fan of Hitler as a youngster and there is little evidence that his opinion has changed. He may not express the desire for a totalitarian state or violence against opposition and, as such, may not be classed as a "fascist", but his admiration of Hitler in the past is enough to justify the title imho.
Prince Harry showed a huge lack of judgement in choosing that outfit for a fancy dress party. I don't think there is any evidence that he did so because he has any love of the Nazis though! If he'd been singing "gas 'em all" then that would be a totally different matter.
I agree he is a thoroughly nasty chap. I suspect he admires strong leaders and whether they were Communist, Fascist or any other unpleasant type I suspect those are the qualities he admires - he likes Trump and no doubt was a fan of Thatcher ( I am guessing on that). His opinions on immigration, the EU etc are also diametrically opposed to mine. In fact I cannot think of a pleasant thing to say about him. BUT I am opposed to labelling people. It is where most forms of discrimination originate. We are a tribal animal so if we can put someone in a different tribe we do not need to examine their personal failings or other - we simply use a shortcut - he is gay/ Black/ Coloured/a Jew/ and so on and so forth. Once you label someone you dehumanise them and for me that is not a good thing. So hopefully that shows where I am on this. I would much rather someone talked about the person - what he says and does (now not 40 years ago) and compares that to other people - like Trump.
Unfortunate company he keeps for a not fascist. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/top-nazi-s-grandchild-hosts-nigel-farage-at-afd-rally-vwwgzcb9l
I think another aspect of the title and @Bwood_Horn can confirm or deny, is that Farage does have an apparent affinity to many things German. He had a German wife, his kids have German passports and he himself appears to have applied for one. https://skwawkbox.org/2019/04/23/fa...-2016-referendum-and-did-not-deny-having-one/ Add this to his alleged fondness for a touch of the old Horst Wessel Lied and the prosecution rests.
Interesting line-up: Which drew the response: For those who have forgotten Der Färagers domestic political triumphs:
Classic ‘soft’ BBC bias here. Hamza Yousaf was introduced as having had a rocky start. Farage, who has lost everything he’s contested for several years, just introduced as architect of Brexit, in itself, not referred to as ‘rocky’.
