West Bromich Albion 2-2 Watford. Monday 1/4/24

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Ilkley, Mar 30, 2024.

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Watford Brilliant Again? Fat chance?

  1. We'll be annilhilated - home win

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  2. We'll be all right - draw

    11 vote(s)
    36.7%
  3. We'll be amazing - away win

    5 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. Why bloomin air fryer chat?

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  1. Ilkley

    Ilkley Formerly known as An Ilkley Orn Baht 'at

    WBA & WFC Logos

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    The footy chat bit
    Well, I was all set to write something suitably downbeat: then last night happened. By the look of the poll, not many people thought we would get anything out of a match with top of the table Leeds... at home. Anyway, will Clevs be able to carry on the good work on Monday? We will see soon enough. By the standards of our home performances since November, the first half last night was a bit of a shock. Attacking from the whistle? Who would have thought we were capable of that? Betting odds suggest The Albion will win, but that we're in with a decent shout of avoiding defeat. After taking Leeds by suprise, I am much more confident than I was on Friday at 19:59 that we can get at least a point, though I fear tiredness could be a factor. We will have Hoedt back (though some conspiracists may want to point out that we got 4 points without him) though the thinness of our squad will likely be an issue with tough matches close together. But I'd like to end on a cheerful note, hoping that the new manager bounce bears more fruit. A Happy Easter to all.


    The personal bit

    I lived for thirty years at the Bearwood end of Harborne (as if anyone on here knows where that is) so only 3 miles south of the Albion ground. It was the first ground to which I took my elder son, but not by design. We got to Stoke that day to watch the ‘Orns, only to find that we were in a cup game. D’oh! I had to consult fixture lists in a newspaper in Smiths (no internet in 1995). Anyway, we saw a good match, with plenty of goals, as The Albion beat Notts County 3-2.


    The useless facts bit

    1. West Bromwich is definitely NOT in Birmingham, any more than Watford is in London.

    2. The only other Bromwich nearby is Castle Bromwich, 8 miles east in Birmingham, where Spitfires were made during the war.

    3. The Hawthorns ground takes its name from the trees that used to grow roundabouts when the ground was built.

    4. Boing Boing Baggies derives from spring making being the local metal bashing trade.

    5. Baggies has its origins in either the baggy trousers worn by local foundry workers, or in the bags of money, and the bag men who carried them, from the turnstiles round the pitch to the office shortly after kick off. Take your pick. There’s no agreement.

    6. In West Bromwich there’s a factory (Robinson Brothers Ltd) that makes the odorant (foul smell) that goes in natural gas. Chaos reigned when they had a leak. Where I worked, 5 miles away, it stank for half a day.


    The stats bit

    Soccerstats has a way of calculating how surprising different match outcomes would be, based on teams’ recent PPG home and away. For this match it predicts a draw as the least surprising result and an away win the most surprising. This is my prediction. If you don’t like it, I have others.

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  2. Ilkley

    Ilkley Formerly known as An Ilkley Orn Baht 'at

    Sorry, in my excitement about the performance against Leeds I forgot to include this:

    Oppo Forum: https://westbrom.com/forum/index.php

    Also, they're in very good form at home, having won 9 of their last 10 (losing only to Southampton) beating playoff rivals Norwich and Coventry and inflicting Leeds last defeat.
     
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  3. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    My biggest concern is that our tiny squad is going to be shattered from last nights first half exersions. They were shattered after 60 mins last night.
    I guess Chak can come back in and maybe Kone from the start. Will Dennis be fit to start ? Is Hoedt back ?
     
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  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Hoedt is back but which of the 3 central defenders will drop out.
     
  5. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Heading up on Monday slightly optimistic, hopefully The Vine is open!
     
  6. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Considering Kone' did next to nothing when he came on last night he has no excuse to not start other than what TC decides before hand. I think Hoedt will easily slot back into the system with ease. Andrews could do with a confidence boost and starting him on Monday would be the best thing to give him a chance to better that performance. Livermore is a possible starter, his old charges and he likes a physical game - could be one for him to flourish.

    As for attack, dependant on Dennis it will probably be Bayo and Raj with maybe Colins in reserve. Bachmann has done pretty well since coming back in but I would think Hamer is far from frozen out again. Kayembe was at his best again and the way WBA play we will need to get hold of the ball in the middle when we can. I'll go for another well earned draw as I cannot see us beating them. Technically we have nothing to play for now and the importance of them getting a win will mean the pressure is off us.

    1-1
     
  7. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    To say nothing else, last night won't have taken anything out of Kone!
     
  8. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    He's better than all the others so take your pick
     
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  9. Cassetti's Beard.

    Cassetti's Beard. Academy Graduate

    Play like we did against Leeds and it'll be a comfortable 3 points. Hopefully Dennis is fit, looked back to his best yesterday.

    Top half finish here we come.

    'ORNETS
     
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  10. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Back down to earth with a bump.

    WBA have something to play for still. They're going to whup us.

    4-0.
     
  11. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Top half of the bottom half is now definitely ON.
     
  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I think you’re being too optimistic. However top half of the bottom half of the bottom half IS still on.
     
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  13. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    So 18th then? :)
     
  14. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Or as the hierarchy would put it: we are aiming to establish ourselves as the best of the rest of the mediocre crud after all the good teams are discounted from the discussion.
     
  15. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Providing they're all fit I wouldn't change the back 3. Put Hoedt on the bench.
     
  16. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    We're the mid-table team's mid-table team.
     
  17. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I'd agree with this. WBA are dangerous but they do not have the players' of the capability of Leeds. Not saying the game will be any easier tomorrow afternoon, as fatigue may still be a lingering factor, but I think they have all earned another start. Heodt would be an ideal sub if we need to keep it tight going into the final minutes if we are winning/drawing I feel.
     
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  18. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Hoedt in for Pollock every day of the week. His distribution alone is worth having. Would mean moving a Porteous back to RCB to help out Andrews but that’s easy enough.
     
  19. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    How many Porteouses do we have, then?
     
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  20. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    I had a good feeling before the Leeds game, thought we would get something. I think we will get something tomorrow too.
     
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  21. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    It was always going to be a huge ask against Summerville, but thought he should have had a more experienced head along side him to back him up.

    Expect Kone and Georgi will be in to add some fresh legs and pack too
     
  22. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Bromwich.
     
  23. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Not sure but however many it is they're all one booking away from suspension I bet.
     
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  24. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Is that the correct plural of Porteous? Any classics scholars out there?
     
  25. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Porteuoie?

    Or is it e-i-e-i-o?
     
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  26. Ilkley

    Ilkley Formerly known as An Ilkley Orn Baht 'at

    Actually, it’s pronounced “Bromidge.”
     
  27. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    West Brom are mediocre, nowhere near as good as Leeds, but we simply cannot have too much of a good thing so I fear we will lose
     
  28. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    Porteei?
     
  29. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Ancient Greek is known to be quite slippery.
    I couldn't possibly say apart from Menelaus being 'good at the war cry' or shouting if you prefer?
     
  30. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    As -ous looks more Greek than Latin, maybe Porteoi?
     
  31. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Are the games today on the red button?
     
  32. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Not sure I can cope with more than one Porterhouse Blue!
     
  33. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

  34. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Really glad Dennis is starting, Edwards the Massiah? Is he back as a player? :)
     
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  35. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Appropriate for Easter.
     
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