THE Penalty!

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Godfather, Oct 14, 2017.

  1. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    If this was the other way around we'd be mighty pi**ed off. The Arsenal supporter at work just asked me if I honestly thought it was a penalty and I told him it probably wasn't no.
    Other than that he doesn't want to talk about the match which says it all.
     
  2. ITKJim

    ITKJim Reservist

    If that foul happened anywhere outside the box then none of us would say a word, whether it went for us or against. In fact, if Arsenal were breaking away and Richarlison did that to Bellerin then you'd say it was a good foul, knock him off his stride and take the booking for the team.
     
  3. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Clattenburg has come out and said it wasn't a dive.
     
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  4. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

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  5. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

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  6. easthertshornet

    easthertshornet Reservist

  7. No. As it stands, the two match ban is prescribed punishment. But. And it is a big but, it would be entirely reasonable to argue that it is unfair to punish a player more harshly for exactly the same offence just because the ref got the call wrong. It opens up such a can of worms that I cannot see the rule, as it stands at the moment, being viable in the face of being challenged on fairness.
     
  8. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Buy him some chips at lunch and piss on them. Make his Monday lunchtime like his Saturday evening.
     
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  9. Malteser

    Malteser Squad Player

    Does anybody know who is actually on this panel? Is it refs only? Ex players?
     
  10. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    Appreci
    Goodness, so conning the ref and getting away with it is the same as attempting to con the ref and getting busted. Attempted murder is as bad as murder by that yardstick.
     
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  11. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    An ex-player, an ex-ref & an ex-manager. They review it separately from each other & all 3 have to decide it was definite simulation for the case to be proven against the payer.
     
  12. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    They have guest panelists like Have I Got News For You.

    This week, it's Arsenal's back three from Saturday. I wouldn't expect a positive result.
     
  13. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    How many of the fouls committed in a typical EPL match would actually be enough to knock a grown man over? Very few, I'd suggested. Whether you call it diving, simulation, gamesmanship or cheating, winning free-kicks, penalties etc is as much a part of the modern game as all seater stadiums and Richarlison's belly flop was no worse than 100 similar incidents every Saturday. Suck it up Wenger, your team of hairdressers was well beaten
     
  14. Grrwood

    Grrwood Reservist

    We shouldn't be surprised that such a big deal has been made over this - it's all instigated by Arsenal fans, notorious keyboard warriors who are essentially football's equivalent of the stereotypical gaming nerds sat at their computers all day in their mum's basements searching for twitter polls in an attempt to validate their team who have been pretty much irrelevant for over 10 years now.

    Essentially this:

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    Sad thing is I fully expect them to ban him just a make an example and please the braying masses.
     
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  15. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    From the BBC Sportsday page today:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/41634341

    The last sentence says it all, like I posted last night they can't prove beyond all reasonable doubt. Only Richarlison will ever know for sure and possibly Bellerin who knows whether or not the amount of contact was probably enough.
     
  16. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    You mean they should be punished less because they are incompetent?
     
  17. The available sentencing for attempted murder is the same as murder. So yes. And not just a yard stick.
     
  18. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yes, that seems like a fair way of running things. I don't get the objection to it as it's perfectly logical.
     
  19. Travis Bickle

    Travis Bickle Reservist

    Sorry if I'm being terribly dim here but a couple of weeks ago Dele Alli was booked for a blatant dive against Huddersfield. As far as I know that's the course of action that was taken against him. How can a retrospective two match ban be imposed when the only differentiating factor is the referee's decision on the day? And even if there is retrospective action, surely the punishment should be the same, a yellow card?
     
  20. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Richie baby does go down a bit easily. That is the thing that will get him a bad reputation as opposed to any debate over this specific pen. incident. He needs a shoulder to lean on. He's 'only a baby'. Quote. Troy?
     
  21. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    I maybe wrong but I was under the impression it's for 'result/match' changing situations.
     
  22. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    It makes me laugh when players go down like they've been shot rolling around in agony only to get up 30 seconds later with nothing wrong, yet no one ever says anything about how pathetic they look.

    This happens probably 100 times a week in the prem. I mean, they look like idiots!!!

    Anyway. There was contact. It was enough for him to genuinely go down as happens all the time. It wasn't even dangling a trailing leg like always happens.

    Surely this panel is for outright dives where there is no contact whatsoever. Any decision other than innocent sets a very dangerous level going forward.
     
  23. KelsoOrn

    KelsoOrn Squad Player

    Both have been intimated. I don't know for sure though.
     
  24. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    The panel have concluded that it wasn't a dive.
     
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  25. easthertshornet

    easthertshornet Reservist

    Source?
     
  26. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    All over the Tw@tosphere. (twitter)
     
  27. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

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  28. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

  29. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    No punishment for Charlie boy :cool:
     
  30. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Would be highly amusing if Wenger got done instead :p
     
  31. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    I'd love it if Arsenal have a similar incident in their next game but with their player fouled in the same way...














    ...AND THE REF CARDED THEIR PLAYER FOR DIVING

    :D:D:D:D:D
     
  32. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I always thought a ponce was a pimp
     
  33. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Correct call.

    If the shoe was on the other foot Wenger would have been all over it claiming a penalty.

    Role on Chelsea.
     
  34. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Phew. Was worried all morning the panel would be made up of Graham Poll, Garth Crooks and The Telegraph.

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  35. easthertshornet

    easthertshornet Reservist

    Well well well. Shove that up your arse Wenger, Hackett, Poll and Crooks!
     
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