Ismaila Sarr

Discussion in 'Former Players Archive' started by Burnsy, Jul 19, 2020.

  1. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    I dont understand why Man Utd would want Sarr anyway, they have no lack of talent in attack but defensively they are a mess. Strong foundations, build from the back etc.
     
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  2. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    If they paid us a a £10m+ loan fee and we get promoted then it would work out as a fantastic bit of business. The problem is if we don’t get promoted, then he might have made the difference so it would’ve been £10m in and £100m down the drain.
     
  3. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I think Sarr is the redline for a lot of fans. Since we're selling good players for under their true worth, that's only palatable if it allows us to keep Sarr. If he goes to, which I believe will happen, then I think a lot of fans will be very unhappy with the business the Pozzo's have done in this market.

    Without Sarr, I cannot see the menace and mayhem our forwards can cause. In all likelihood we'd be left with Murray, Pedro, Deeney, Gray, Perica, Penaranda, Success & Sinclair as our forward options. It's not rubbish by any means, but I don't think there's enough quality in that group to score a lot of goals. Add Geri, Welbeck and Sarr to that group and it's completely transformed.....it becomes HMS PTL. So, they've got to get this right.

    Only sell to United for £50m. No loan deals. They are the richest club on the planet.......if they want him, they've got to pay for him.
     
  4. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    We'll most likely end up loaning Welbeck and Deulofeu out, so that'll be wages off the books and a couple of million in loan fees. Makes no sense to do the same with Sarr.

    I'm cautiously optimistic that Gino will realise that keeping Sarr is vital to our chances.
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2020
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  5. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    If they are willing to spend £100 million on Sancho, we should push the price up to £60+ million imo
     
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  6. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I agree, a £50m+ from Man Utd is good business, anything else would be disappointing.
     
  7. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    If he wants to leave we have to sell him, even if it's for €1.
     
  8. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    U wot m8?
     
  9. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Last season they conceded basically the same number of goals as Liverpool and City, but scored 20 goals fewer than Liverpool and almost 40 goals fewer than City.

    In attack they basically have Rashford, Martial and Greenwood, which is a very good front 3 but that's basically it. The drop off in quality from those 3 to anyone else they have going forwards is massive. It means that they basically have to keep running Rashford in to the ground even when he's not fully fit or in form, and playing Greenwood perhaps more frequently than ideal given his age. They have zero quality backup or rotation options.

    I still don't think they'll sign Sarr though, and I don't think he'd be a good fit for their style of play, but they def need another one or two attacking options.
     
  10. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    A loan without an obligation to buy would be a terrible deal for us. Even a loan with an obligation to buy doesn’t help us much as we need the money now. Would be incredibly disappointed if we loaned him out for a 10m fee and wages and then missed out on promotion.

    It makes no sense from our end to loan out a player who could get us promoted this season. Hoping Gino and go see this too.
     
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  11. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    If they sell James to Leeds for the amazing sum of twenty five million pounds then they may still pursue Sancho or get hold of Dembele. Barring any freak injuries I think we may hold onto Ismaila until January and beyond.
     
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  12. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    If nothing else we won't get a replacement in and be left with basically no pace in our team attack wise apart from Pedro maybe.
     
  13. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    He'll probably leave in January if we don't sell him this transfer window. Gives us 20 games to get as many points as possible.
     
  14. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    :rolleyes:
     
  15. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Actually, this isn't a bad shout. Cash in now. He might never play well for us again.
     
  16. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Erm, why?! If we hold on to him until January and are near the top of the table then, it would make much more sense to hold on to him a few more months to help achieve a lucrative promotion.
     
  17. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Plus you can't make a player stay if they want to leave.
     
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  18. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Exactly. Time to cut our losses. Chuck Pedro in too. Just in case he wants to leave soon.
     
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  19. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    If Ivic is insisting on playing this system then in my opinion we may as well just cash in.
     
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  20. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    If we're playing this system we only need three centre backs and two wing backs. Anyone else is a waste of wages as they won't be touching the ball.
     
  21. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Garner and Chalobah will get a lot of touches passing the ball sideways to each other
     
  22. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Looked like a frustrated player today.

    Reading handled him well.
     
  23. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I'm hoping when the window is finally shut and we see who is still available to us that Vlad might decide to change his system accordingly to suit whatever players we have left.

    A lot of people have been moaning about the system VLAD has been rigidly sticking with so far, but I think he might just have been doing that for damage limitation until he is able to hopefully play a more fluid team using some of the players that have not been available to him so far.

    I am hoping that things will change once we have a settled picture of who we can actually rely upon, which is something we have not had so far this season. When the window shuts I'm hoping that our season will really pick up and start in earnest and we won't look back from then.

    So far with limited resources Vlad has not done too bad IMO and I am expecting him to really push on once he finally has a full squad to choose from, and that includes the want away's that don't get the moves they want.
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2020
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  24. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Muzzled by Reading, that’s £10m off his value.
     
  25. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    If anyone offers us “a deal which is expected to be worth more than £10m” suspect we will bite their hand off
     
  26. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    From what I've seen of him this season, I can't believe any club would spend £50m on him. No chance of that. I'd say he's very likely to still be with us by the close of the window on 16th October.
     
  27. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    I see what you mean after today.
     
  28. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Agreed. Our reserves destroyed them a couple of years ago. What was our lineup that day?
     
  29. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Overrated. Get rid and bring in KIrk Douglas.
     
  30. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Still didn't look 100%, first half looked decent, but second half was very very poor, probably the worst I've seen of him. Still, think some of us are jumping the gun a bit, clearly he's playing as a striker as a stop gap, I hope we keep him and once the international break is over and we have everyone back, he'll play as an out and out wide player
     
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  31. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    Watford
    • 1Gomes
    • 23Navarro
    • 6Mariappa
    • 5Pr*dl
    • 11Masina
    • 21Femenía
    • 24Wilmot
    • 14ChalobahS
    • 12Sema
    • 20Quina
    • 10Success
    Way stronger today!
     
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  32. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Wilmot played in midfield? Maybe it's a better position for him.
     
  33. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    What was Reading's lineup though, they must have been playing their reserves too
     
  34. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    They were indeed, remember it was mostly academy players. Think they rested 1st teamers for a cup game or something. They're a much better side now and think they'll be top 6-ish, but we still wasted a chance today with the players they had out.
     
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  35. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Yeah, I highly doubt that lineup beats this Reading side! I'm not sure about them for the rest of the season, this season of all seasons we shouldn't be getting ahead of ourselves, I doubt they'll be a serious challenger for promotion, but they're not bad
     
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