I'm watching Gillette Soccer Special, and the reporter says that, at the game between Yeovil and Birmingham, Yeovil scored a late equaliser and the Birmingham players are all complaining that Yeovil should let them walk the ball into the net because of an injury at the time. Interesting. Is this the same Birmingham who tried to score from a throw-in which we put out when we had a man down? C.unts.
My friend who is a Yeovil fan was at the game and was texting me all about it. Apparently after an Extra Time 25 yard screamer from Yeovi's right-back, they let Birmingham equalise. Yeovil then lost on penalties. I thought the same thing as you about Birmingham at the time though. They deserved it!
Well this is the whole problem. Lee Clark is raving mad, saying he's going to make complaints and the like. Anyone who watches football knows as a game comes to an end the side in the lead waste time. Some examples are more blatant than others but a growing phenomenon has been the exact one that happened here. Why should the losing team have to return to ball when the winning team kicked it out? The Premier League has a much simpler rule - the referee decides when play is stopped for an injury, not either team. That way this situation is hopefully prevented.
Very valid point again. Didn't the Birmingham fans themselves claim we were faking an injury up there when we kicked the ball out and they were asked to give us the ball back?
and they say we dived and rolled around all game. Usual *** for tat "debate" that generally goes around in circles
Can I just add to this and bring a bit of a twist? Didn't Lee Clark actually say that if they had scored against us in that situation he would have asked his team to let us walk the ball in? http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/10593368.Birmingham_boss_claims_he_would_ve_let_Watford_score/ I'm not sure how he reacted made him a hypocrite last night. His stance is still the same. A team gained an unfair advantage from unsportsmanship. However, it is an unwritten rule. They didn't have to do it.
I've seen the incident on Sky and I don't think Birmingham players have any justification to complain, as they did exactly the same to us, only didn't score......but they tried to. Lee Clark was fuming about the incident in the post-match interview and had a strange bout of amnesia as he was asked "have you ever seen anything like this before?" and he replied "no". Now the game went into extra-time with the scores level at 2-2. Yeovil went 3-2 up....BUT....immediately allowed Birmingham a walk-in goal to make it 3-3. So even though Yeovil were very unsporting in the first instance, they re-addressed the situation later. The game ended as a draw and went to penalties. Birmingham won this with a controversial penalty. The ball was pushed onto the post, then it hit the cross-bar before coming down and hitting the keeper before going in. This should not have been allowed as when the ball moves away from the goal, no matter how short a distance, it counts as a save. Of course you get another pathetic referee that doesn't know the rules and allows it to stand. Bottom line is, Birmingham won and as they should have done in the normal 90 minutes, so justice was seen to be done, but to have an unsporting goal, followed by a walk-in, then an illegal penalty...there were certainly lots to talk about. Lee Clark is going to complain to the FA, but I don't see why....as his team won and the FA may overrule the tie (ok...very unlikely)...but there was an illegal penalty scored.....so I would let sleeping dogs lie. It's not as if his own team would not stoop to such low tactics.....as they clearly did.
Pretty sure you are wrong there, I am sure the penalty is only complete when the ref decides and that is when the momentum from the original kick has been fully expended or the ball has gone wide or touched again by the kicker. The ball had not stopped, thus it was still in play. There was a Moroccan or Tunisian keeper last year who saved a pen in a shoot out but the ball was still spinning as he walked away celebrating and it spun back in. The goal was allowed. The ref has final say and thus as there was still momentum, he was right he allow the goal.
The new regulation is this. Whenever the hereby mentioned player Jordi Alba is present in any fixture, the team playing against him must field an emergency field hospital with a full medical team on standby. Any touch to the said player could result in a life threatening situation.......I've seen some divers in my time but Alba takes the proverbial biscuit. [video=youtube;DoGDjpn5sSQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoGDjpn5sSQ[/video] And he also suffered a bout of peritonitis when the ball was given back to him during the match. Poor kid.
No....you've misunderstood. The ball cannot travel forward away from the goal in a penalty in a shoot-out. I have been told this by a professional referee. So if the ball strikes a post then goes forward (away from the goal) and hits the keeper and goes back into the goal it should not count. It's all about the direction of the ball. It can only go in one direction, towards the goal. If it rebounds away from the goal then it is considered a save. This rule only applies in penalty shoot-outs. I must admit, I never knew this myself until yesterday when it was being talked about in a radio phone in. I had it confirmed by a professional referee as well.
There's nothing in Law 14 stating mentioning the direction of the ball after it's been kicked. It can hit the keeper and go in. It can hit the bar, go backwards and then spin in to the goal. It's all part of the same action of taking the penalty kick. Maybe your pro ref is wrong and the one that awarded the goal for Birmingham is correct.
In the Burton vs Fulham game, Bryan Ruiz's penalty struck the post, and was not going to end up in the net until it struck the the keeper on the back who was a yard in front of the goal line, and went in. You're telling me this shouldn't have stood? As far as I know, in a shootout, matimbers has it spot on?
You may not have known it until yesterday but trust me, you can forget it today. Your professional referee mate is wrong.
Then he was wrong! Momentum is the rule. This is the one I mentioned in my first post. [yt]qsYl0v8jJlM[/yt] As a qualified referee and an ex keeper, I always made sure I knew my stuff on penalty shoot-outs as the spinning thing almost happened to me once and have scored 2 own goals from my arse hitting it in the net from a post rebound!
Looks like this situation has happened before. The only penalty oddness I can remember coming across is the fact that a penalty taker can't kick a ball that came back off the post/crossbar. Unless it comes back off the goalkeeper, he can't touch it.
I guess it prevents an unfairness, ie, keeper guesses the right way and goes sprawling after it, hits the crossbar, and by the time the ball bounces back to the striker the keepers still on the floor?
It's just to do with the fact that a player in football who takes a set piece can't touch the ball twice before someone else has touched it.
They only put that rule in place so they can stop play when the 'big 6' are about to concede a late goal.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...to-play-to-moral-ideals-blogs-johnny-phillips Johnny Phillips points out the similarities to how they acted in our game.
