Weredeer I - The New Breed - Rules and Roll Call

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  1. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator


    I've change the names of the characters for a christmas theme, but feel free to use the standard naming conventions if it all becomes a bit confusing!

    What is Weredeer

    Weredeer is a game that takes place in a small dark wintry village haunted by Weredeers. At the start all villagers are secretly assigned a role to play, either Weredeer or villager with some villagers also assigned special roles. The game alternates between day and night phases. During the day threads all players can openly discuss their thoughts and suspicions about other villagers, and every day everyone must vote to lynch 1 villager. Then each night while the village is closed, each Weredeer get to secretly select one villager to kill. The aim of the villagers is to weed out and lynch the Weredeers during the day. The aim of the Weredeers is to avoid suspision or to lay it on others during the day and kill off the good villagers at night. Weredeers win when there are an equal number of good and evil villagers. Villagers win when they have killed the all the Weredeers.

    The village closes over the weekend, however the tavern and cemetery* will remain open.


    The Day Phase

    The game starts on the morning of the first day. The Mod will create the day thread with a poll for the lynching for that evening. Each day will then start the same way commencing with the Mod's write up of the Weredeers exploits the night before. The phase is then live and all villagers can (re)commence with their discussions and lynching voting for that day. Additionally during each day phase, both the Seer and the Alpha Weredeer may send one message to the Mod to assist their team. The Mod will post this anonymously on their behalf. It's up to the villagers to decide which message is from who:

    Santa The Seer Messages - Once a day, Santa is allowed to ask the Mod if a villager is good or evil. Santa can then send a message to the Mod to post anonymously on their behalf about anything pertaining to the game to help team good win, whether it be about the villager just viewed or anything else they think will assist team good. The Mod will post the message as soon as he is able to and will timestamp it in case it's late for any reason.

    Alpha Weredeer messages - The Alpha Weredeer cannot ask the Mod any questions. They can however, once a day, also send the mod a message to post on their behalf. Their anonymous message is usually an attept to pretend to be Santa and confuse, mislead and befuddle the villagers. The Alpha Weredeer doesn't have to wait for Santa to post, and vice versa, and neither have to post a message if they think it will help their cause to remain silent. The Mod will post the message as soon as he is able to and will timestamp it in case it's late for any reason.

    Lynchings - During the day and before 7pm, ALL good and evil villagers must vote on who to lynch that evening, and All villagers still in the game both good and evil will be up for nomination. Good villagers hope to lynch a Weredeer, evil villagers hope to avoid detection or sway the vote elsewhere. Whoever recieves the highest number of votes by 7pm is lynched and is eliminated from the game and are revealed as good or evil. Non-voters will be automatically eliminated from the game. This concludes the day portion of the game.

    The Night Phase

    During the night phase, each Weredeer secretly messages the Mod with the villager they have selected for their kill. (It would be handy if all Weredeer night messages can be in by 10pm each day.) That concludes the night portion of the game.

    The next morning at the start of the next day phase, the Villagers killed by the Weredeers are revealed as GOOD or BAD by the Mod and are out of the game, and that's days discussions can then commence. If Weredeers select different Villagers, each villager will be killed. If they select the same villager, that villager will be killed and the Weredeers selecting the same kill will learn of each others identities. They cannot PM each other, but can try to work together during the public day phases.

    Weredeers win when there are an equal number of good players and evil players. Villagers win when they have killed the all the Weredeers.


    The Full Moon

    If team evil are being killed off early and getting their butts kicked, the Mod may at their discretion implement a full moon to increase their number again. That night an ordinary villager (excluding special villagers) is converted into a Weredeer. The villager will be told privately, and will be able to make a kill the next night just as any other Weredeer would, and from that night forward they are a Weredeer and are on the side of evil.

    The Full Sun

    Likewise if the first Santa is killed early in the game, another Santa may be selected from the ordinary villagers to help maintain the flow of the game.


    The Cemetery

    The cemetery is a place for eliminated villagers only to go to and discuss the game and their thoughts in isolation from the rest of the village. Only the dead will be given access to this sacred place allowing eliminated villagers to discuss their thoughts and suspicions without interfering with the game itself. Keys to the cemetery will be given to each villager once they are eliminated. *(In the event that the cemetery thread doesn't work, I'll create a google spreadsheet and email the link to each eliminated member.)

    The Tavern

    Guedioura's Grotto will be open in the evening from 7pm until the morning and is only for villagers still in the game to go and have a few beers and a chat. This is not a place for gameplay chat to be continued into the night, but a place for villagers to unwind and have a bit of non-play banter.


    The Additional bits

    1. Non-voters and inactive players may be automatically elimnitated at the Mods discretion.
    3. Votes are cast using the poll system. These are public. Once you have voted, you then CANNOT change your vote.
    4. The Alpha Weredeer may unintentionally kill Grinch, or another Weredeer.
    5. Elf Villagers may unintentionally lynch Santa.
    6. Santa may implicate the Jack Frost which might lead to that player's death.
    7. Only Grinch The Traitor begins the game with knowledge of other players' roles - those being the Weredeers.
    8. Messages that the moderator posts to the board may be from either the Santa or the Weredeer. The players will have to decide.
    9. The moderator will post messages from Santa and Weredeer as soon as he checks them.
    Players may post their roles, with the exception of the roles above that have additional conditions, but they may not be telling the truth.
    10. The Weredeer, Grinch, and Santa should try and keep their role a secret for as long as possible. Elf Villagers should try to lynch the Weredeer and Grinch immediately once found out, and the Weredeer should try to kill the Santa once found out.
    11. Ties will be broken by a public gambling event (such as a horse race).


    The roles - Team GOOD

    Santa The Seer


    Santa The Seer is the only character that can discover if the other players are good or evil. He does this each day by asking the mod if a player is GOOD or EVIL. After his discovery, he has the option of sending one anonymous message to the mod to post. It's anonymous so the Weredeer has a harder time discovering Santa and also so that the evil roles are not immediately outed.

    Rudolph The Guardian


    Each night, Rudolph The Guardian may choose one player to "save". If Rudolph chooses to save a player who has been chosen to be killed by a Weredeer, then the kill is unsuccessful. Rudolph may only choose each player once throughout the whole game. If a player has already been chosen by Rudolph previously, they cannot be chosen again. During the day Rudolph partakes in play just as a regular villager would. Rudolph can protect himself, but again only once during the game.

    Jack Frost The Tinker


    Though Jack Frost The Tinker is a good character, if Santa views him the Mod will reveal him as evil. Jack Frost does not know beforehand that he is evil Jack. If Santa does view him and post his anonymous message that he is evil, he will have to try and convince the other villagers that he is actually a good character.

    Snowmen Masons


    Snowmen Masons are ordinary villagers who are aware of each others identities. There could be 2, 3 or 4 Snowmen (depending on player numbers). They are usually a small cabal who are encouraged to work together to protect each other and influence the vote. Snowmen are NOT permitted to communicate outside of the game.

    Elf Villagers


    The only thing regular Elf Villagers can do is vote on who will be lynched at the end of each day. A regular Elf villager may be converted into a Weredeer or replacement Santa at any point in the game if a Full Moon or Full Sun occurs.


    The roles - Team EVIL

    Alpha Weredeer


    The Alpha Weredeer selects one villager to kill during the night time portion of the game. The Alpha Weredeer's goal is to survive until there are equal numbers of good and evil players by avoiding suspicion himself and by posting misleading information about other players during the day phases.

    They cannot ask the Mod any questions, but may also send one PM to the moderator during the day phase for him to post anonymously on their behalf. Sending this PM to the moderator is optional. Only the Alpha Weredeer may send this secret message to the Mod. At the start of the game, the Alpha Weredeer does not know any other players' roles, including the identity of any other Weredeers or Grinch The Traitor.

    Extra Weredeers


    As well as the Alpha Weredeer, there will also be 1 or 2 additional Weredeers (depending on player numbers). Each night the extra Weredeer(s) may also select a kill. If they successfully choose the same kill as another Weredeer(s), then the Weredeers who have selected the same kill will learn of each others identity. They are still NOT permitted to communicate with each other directly through PM but can try to work together in the open message threads. In the event that the Alpha Weredeer is killed then another Weredeer will take their place with regards to sending messages, in order (Beta, Gamma and so on). If the Weredeers choose different kills then all choices are killed.

    Grinch The Traitor


    Grinch The Traitor knows who the Weredeer(s) are at the start of the game. His goal is to keep the Weredeers alive so that the evil characters will win. This is accomplished by posting misleading information about other players and even going so far as to sacrifice himself.


    Roll Call

    So sign up below with your chosen village occupation - and please drop me an email at mehwerewolf@gmail.com with your username in the subject line in case the PM doesn't work for any reason and I need to run the anonymous parts of the game through email.

    If you're a newbie then don't be scared. We were all newbies once and it's worth playing along as a bit of fun and a timewaster - this is only my 3rd game and I'm running it! If you have any questions post them here, PM me or if that isn't working email me at mehwerewolf@gmail.com.

    Roles will be assigned on Friday 25th November and the village opens on the morning of Thursday December 1st.

    The Weredeers are coming... the Weredeers are coming... the Weredeers are coming..........
  2. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    In. Will send an email in a moment.

    I'll be the Town Bum.
  3. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I'll be the town thief, I mean budding entrepreneur, selling second hand goods at a bargain.
  4. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Sounds like a really bad tagline from The Apprentice.
  5. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I'm stealing that.

    You can use it again for a small fee.

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  6. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Good stuff. I'd like to be the town Doctor if you don't mind. My motto is "a bottle a day keeps the Weredeer away", (a bottle of red).
  7. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    I'll be the local Snowplough driver
  8. Jellyman

    Jellyman Squad Player

    Jellyman, purveyor of fine mulled wines, and general cad.
  9. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Can I be the local veterinary surgeon please?
  10. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    In. Annoying local journalist, ala Courtney Cox in Scream
  11. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    In please
  12. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Butcher please
  13. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    I'm in, considering my genius deductions in the last game.
  14. PhilippineOrn

    PhilippineOrn First Team

    The Cemetery has been open to non players in the past hasn't it, on request?
  15. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Yeah no worries. Happy to allow access to non-game players.

    Which reminds me, how do I get it created?
  16. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Doesn't moog normally play? Then again I haven't seen him post for ages.
  17. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

  18. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Since the initial email, 8 have now re-confirmed:

    Harrow Orn
    Cassetti's Beard

    And an additional 2 have joined:


    If we can at least get the other 7 from the initial thread involved then we are at 17:

    The Voice Of Reason
    Steve Leo Beleck
    With A Smile

    Plus maybe a couple more to get it to 20?

    If anyone is put off by sharing their email address then I can try to run it through PM, but it is really intermittent for me so sharing of the roles, messages and any Full Moon/Suns may be delayed.
  19. R55BKR

    R55BKR Academy Graduate

    I can be one of the few needed to bring it to 20 - total newbie to it tho, so go easy on me!

    Can I be the village pub landlord?
  20. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Cool, Pub Landlord now appointed!

    Don't worry about being new. I've only played 2 games so far and I was on the winning EVIL team on my second go (more luck than judgement maybe!). If you have time have a look at a couple of the older games to familiarise yourself.

    Up to 11 :)
  21. Grrwood

    Grrwood Reservist

    I'm in. Chimneysweep
  22. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Plus you had a pretty talented Wolf ahead of you :naughty:
  23. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

  24. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Up to 13! Unlucky for some!
  25. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Still only 13.

    I can leave it for another few days until next week to try to get numbers up.

    Anyone from the initial post that hasn't joined this one still want to join in?
  26. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    PM them to give them a nudge.
  27. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Haven't chosen a profession, so will leave it to the discretion of the organiser.
  28. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    In please and don't mind my job :)
  29. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Any more for any more?

    numbers are slightly low - 14 in so far:

    Harrow Orn
    Cassetti's Beard
    steve harrow

    What's the general consensus? Play? Wait a few more days? Still have 5 or 6 form the initial email that haven't signed up to this official thread.

    Up to you guys...
  30. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Advertise in the general forum bit? Might spark some more interest.
  31. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

  32. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

  33. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Suspicious behaviour.

    Vote Steve Leo Beleck.
  34. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Cool. 15. I'll definitely run it with 15 or more so we're on. Will need some advice on best character distribution once final numbers are in.
  35. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Make Moog the reverse tinker seer
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