(45) Ryan Andrews

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by Hogg-DEENEY!!!, Apr 10, 2023.

  1. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Why is Ryan's goal against Plymouth not in the Goal of the Month vote?

    It gets my vote over all the others listed!!!
     
  2. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Is it for December?

    Andrews was in January..
     
  3. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    Yep! I think you are right :oops:
     
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  4. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    The one bright spot on Saturday. He'll be off in the summer to some lower-mid table PL team like Palace or Chelsea.
     
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  5. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    He's not good enough to make that step up yet for at least another year or two minimum. He has the tools but he's still raw in decision making and consistency which he can't afford in a step up. We're pretty much his ideal level.
     
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  6. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Perhaps. But nothing to stop Palace snapping him up and loaning him back out, maybe to us. Would also Pozzo to keep the wolf from the door a bit longer.
     
  7. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    So do we think he is really tired and needed resting or something a bit more sinister going on ?
     
  8. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Like what? He's plotting to overthrow the government or developing a new super virus or something?
     
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  9. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    I heard he's said he'd like to get the ball forward a bit quicker, overlap & attack and all sorts of subversive activity.
     
  10. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Ha sorry just meant a falling out !
     
  11. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Nothing to see here…doesn’t seem the sort to throw his toys out with the bath water. Probably needs a bit of time to re-energise and get his head back in the game.
     
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  12. ProfessorAbdi

    ProfessorAbdi First Year Pro

  13. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    It was very clear early on what sort of person Ismael was when he happily threw players under the bus publicly. None of this is a surprise. Fair play to Wayne for calling him out.

    The zoom call Avengers will soon be assembled to discredit him I’m sure.
     
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  14. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Wow. That’s pretty explosive stuff. The wheels have been coming off for a while, but now the axle has gone too. Val has to go.
     
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  15. HampshireHorn84

    HampshireHorn84 Academy Graduate

    There'll be a pod out on Monday/Tuesday blaming the fans again, and stating that Ngakia would walk into any team in this leagues starting 11, whereas Andrews is lucky to even be in the coach to a game
     
  16. HampshireHorn84

    HampshireHorn84 Academy Graduate

    100%, all for stability, but not when the person you've entrusted to lead this is clueless. No other team in this league would even remotely consider Ngakia as starting RB quality, in fact the only team that have reportedly ever shown interst was Charlton in L1?! Andrews for all his young age and lack of expirience should be starting, yes he's had bad games but he's learning . . And also not made of rice paper
     
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  17. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Sure the FTRE boys who are so desperately protective of Val think this is top management.
     
  18. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Straight from the horse's (father's) mouth, not a good way to endear yourself when your job is under pressure...
     
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  19. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Absolutely. Andrews under real pressure to get his place back in the team and his dad does this!
     
  20. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Listened to FTRE this week for the first time in a long while and was genuinely stunned by the opening 20 mins discussion about how the match going fans are to blame for our poor performances
     
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  21. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    I don't know, I can kind of see what they're saying.

    It really doesn't help when fans get on the players' backs - I've seen it countless times. They start getting desperate and lunging in, doing desperation stuff that gives away free kicks and pens. They start smashing and panicking with shots.

    Anybody's going to get fed up with some of the performances, sure, but supporters ought to support not hinder.
     
  22. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    “He lights the blue touch paper and withdraws 20 feet”.
     
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  23. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    I don’t think VI would have made a double sub after 20 minutes just because of the crowd being meanies. We were objectively terrible and any discontent from the stands was downstream of the performance, not vice versa
     
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  24. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    No I agree, but you could clearly see the effect the crowd booing was having on the team. Rather than planned and effective long balls they started just walloping it.and hoping. Anything sideways and backwards was getting jeered. It didn't have a positive effect on performance that's for sure
     
  25. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    So he wasn’t being rested at all?

    Actually dropped and discarded.

    Pozzo won’t like a sellable asset being treated like that.
     
  26. ProfessorAbdi

    ProfessorAbdi First Year Pro

    We finally have an academy graduate that doesn't look out of place in the team, so what happens?
    • The manager lies about his exclusion, preferring to play a midfielder at right back who looks woefully out of his depth.
    • The club give our other right back another four years when he's shown he's not good enough over the past few years.
    • The manager has now decided this player is first choice.
    No wonder youngsters can't wait to leave this place.
     
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  27. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    I was attacked on here a while back for saying good luck to Adrian Blake for making the right choice and leaving

    Any youngster with talent and ambition should do the same. The days of Watford offering academy graduates a path to regular first team football is long gone
     
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  28. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    If you don’t follow the majority view, then you will always be attacked. It’s a sad reflection of those who regularly do this and there are many of them.
     
  29. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Pretty much what Andrews Senior said on one of those Twitter spaces last night. Went on there to try and row back on his tweets and ended up inadvertently doubling down.
     
  30. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Adrian Blake has spent all season in the Utrecht reserves (where he has played 1315 minutes) aside from a 2 minute cameo 2 months ago for the first team lol - what a way to "prove your point"!

    Andrews has had 1803 minutes of first team football already for us this season. Only 5 players in the entire division his age or younger have played more minutes this season (or only 2 players if you go by the exact date they were born rather than year).

    He's improved a lot already at our club since coming in to the team and is our best RB. There does seem to be a strange situation now with our current manager but they'll be out the door before Andrews as there's no reason why Andrews won't be able to further nail down his place as his stamina improves and he continues to develop the overall.
     
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  31. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    The Dutch second tier is still a better level of play than what we would have had if he had stayed tbf
     
  32. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    He's not out best rb if those stats they read out on ftre are correct.

    He was worst at everything. Gifting possession, bad defending, winning headers.
     
  33. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Easy to be the worst at everything when you cherry-pick the data
    https://twitter.com/louorns/status/1764100541477478660
     
  34. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Dutch second tier will probably be like League Two to League One level.

    If he was still here perhaps he'll have got the 806 Championship minutes that we've given Tom Ince instead? Or maybe he's just not all that?

    Regardless, it's really not demonstrating anything when Andrews has played a lot more minutes for us in the Championship this season than Blake has for the side currently second bottom in the Dutch second tier.
     
  35. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Andrews' shot initially came about due to his good fortune of all 4 RB options being unavailable at the time, we've made plenty of signings in the forward areas and haven't had the same availability issues. Ince has been disappointing, but it would take a brave manager to pick a kid over a guy who scored goals for a relegated Reading team last season, it's different to putting him in when there is literally no senior option in that position at all
     

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