Read All About It: The Venal Uk Media

Discussion in 'Politics 2.0' started by Moose, Nov 18, 2021.

  1. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yes, you CAN die of a broken heart:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13086607/die-broken-heart-Steve-Wright.html

    Steve Wright diagnosed with this condition by a publicist but no worries, the Mail is on the case and ready to research Wikipedia to find out all about it.

    Cue a load of weirdos in the comment section, including the obligatory references to woke (the BBC being woke in this instance of course, not the Mail).
     
  2. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    It’s risible attempt by the Mail to blame the BBC. It’s all over any attempt to move established stars on who are not Gary Lineker.

    An objective observer may conclude that a forty year run, on a recent salary of nearly 500k, for playing a few soppy tunes was one hell of a run.
     
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  3. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Phew, it's ok. Turns out it wasn't a broken heart after all:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...t-claims-star-hid-health-problems-family.html
     
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  4. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

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  5. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Tedious little puppet Allister Heath (editor of the Sunday Ballbag) has come to the conclusion that Britain is beyond saving. "For the first time in my life I'm now beginning to think Britain is finished," is the headline on his latest splurge.

    This is the same guy who said Brexit would be great for Britain. The same guy who said Krazy Kwarteng's budget was going to be brilliant.

    He's a self-awareness vacuum. So, so many of these people about.
     
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  6. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

  7. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Because he was at work only days ago and showed no sign of illness?
     
  8. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Heath Ledger dying at 28 was shocking. Steve Irwin dying at 44 from being stabbed in the heart by a stingray was shocking.

    A 69 year old overweight men dying of underlying health issues isn't particularly unusual, though, as any life insurance actuary could tell us.
     
  9. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Another example. Jill Kirby on Question Time tonight. Billed as a 'journalist'. Yes, she writes for the Telegraph and other media outlets.

    But she's actually director of the right-wing think tank and pressure group the Centre for Policy Studies and a regular contributor to Conservative Home. She served on the Tax Reform Commission and advised George Osborne on tax policy.

    This happens *daily* on the BBC. Total dishonesty. But I'm sure the audience all did their homework and looked her up and *then* decided whether they were being spun a load of propaganda or whether they were being served the thoughts of a journalist.

    This stuff is so pervasive, there's absolutely no way any viewer or listener or reader can honestly say: "Oh yeah, I know what I'm consuming." You have to do the work first. You watch anything, you read anything, the first question now has to be 'who's telling me this and why?' Until you know the answer to that, the substance of what they're saying is irrelevant.

    At least the politicians are clearly labelled. And dear me, it's a dreadful state of affairs when the politicians are more transparent than the 'journalists'.

    Edit: To be fair to the BBC here, they did give a fuller biography of Jill Kirby in a second tweet. But the point still stands, these people should be introduced according to their primary interest.
     
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  10. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    TBFT the Beeb they've been pretty good calling out those shytehawks from Tufton Street - ISTR that the charity commission were supposed to be looking into their status - whatever happened to that.

    Also, I'm friendly with a QT booker. She's told me that the pool of people for the 'RW 2nd banana' seat is very small: Farage, Tufton Street or UKIPPER Tice.
     
  11. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I see your point but I still think it’s fairly unusual these days for someone to die ‘in action’ with no announcement of prior illness (and no drug use, cf Matthew Perry).
     
  12. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    And wasn’t she just absolutely ghastly? After her rant-like diatribe on how awful Oct 7th was (which everyone there had already stated), she looked totally shell-shocked when one of the audience suggested that the fact that Hamas is evil and perpetrated unconscionable crimes did not justify the slaughter of 30k+ of innocent Palestinians. I felt the queasy sensation that just maybe, she did.
     
  13. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Hey! Have you heard the latest news? Angela Rayner, who became a MP in 2015, bought a council house in 2007.

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  14. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Kemi also announced that since Brexit, jokes made by British blokes are on average 20% more amusing and all British women have gone up at least two bra sizes.

    These are truly the greatest of times.
     
  15. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Not sure what is the more alarming: that she is willing to peddle such rubbish for political ends, or if she really believes it.
     
  16. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    But it IS a success. We left the EU.
     
  17. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    ur knot the only person who listens 2 Jonathan pye m8
     
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  19. Tory attack on Rayner smacks of "Currygate" desperation. It all started up because of "Lord" Ashcroft's biography.

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    Police reopening investigaion after pressure from this Mekon ****.
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  20. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Labour haven’t handled this particularly well. As PE point out it’s small potatoes stuff and the best way to respond would have been to turn this back on the Tories and refuse to engage. Zahawi had to pay back £4.8m to HMRC ffs. I wouldn’t worry too much about the police thing. They’re no doubt looking for a way out and have sent what I’d say is a meaningless letter to an MP of a sort they send out 10 times a week.
     
  21. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    This is why people who pay superficial attention to things think 'they're all as bad as each other'.

    When this "story" broke, BBC Breakfast mentioned it four times in an hour and a half. Zahawi has slipped behind the curtain and out of the public eye and sectors of the media have run these stories as if they are equivalent. Job done.
     
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  23. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    You’d honestly think they’d have something a little stronger given how close we are to an election.

    What do we have here taken at its highest, given the status of individuals who both own homes who then marry? And then put in context?

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  24. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    This whole thing could have easily been avoided and killed off weeks ago.
    Starmer only had to read her legal advice, then come out and say he'd seen the documents and that everything is correct and in order.

    I don't see what he is gaining by letting this drag on. Even when she's found innocent, mud sticks and people will feel she's covering something up.

    The longer they leave it the longer it's drawing attention away from their GE campaign
     
  25. I don't understand what this "electoral" issue is. She moved just over a mile to a house in the same constituency and neglected to register the fact? Is that it? That she might have voted in the wrong ward in a local council election?
     
  26. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Isn't it alleged that when she registered as a candidate, she registered at one address but lived at another?

    Do any of actually know what they are really investigating? Tax, electoral registration, voting in a different area, or just being the target the Tories want to say "hay, Labour are as corrupt as us"
     
  27. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    I think it’s the latter, but the difference in scale makes it laughable.

    I imagine that there are many divorced people who have a similar situation when blending their lives with another family. Does the home you’ve lived in become your second home as soon as you move a toothbrush in or are you allowed to carry on having your own home if you prefer it?

    My guess is that this would be a small infringement at best. If she didn’t do it correctly then she should cough up. If she did, there’s nothing to see. Either way, it’s hardly Watergate.
     
  28. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I'd say with some certainty GMP won't be looking at the tax angle. That's for HMRC and they have their own investigations team. The rest is up for grabs though as the police can really go wherever their enquiries take them. It appears the potential electoral offences are time-barred though as charges must be laid within 12 months of the offence. The Tories know this of course.

    I agree it's not been handled particularly well. I'm not sure Starmer seeing the legal advice would have made any real difference and may have risked dragging him into it too. But really the one key attribute Rayner has is she's something of an everywoman candidate. Lots of people can relate to her and how she got into politics. In giving the appearance of hiding behind accountants and lawyers she's squandered that a bit and now she's in political danger because she's made this vague statement about standing down (from what? as deputy leader? as an MP?) if she's "found to have committed a criminal offence" (by who? does that mean if the police say she has but can't be prosecuted because time's up? or if she's charged by the CPS? found guilty in court? and what offence?) I get it creates quite a bright dividing line between her and Boris/Sunak etc, but it leaves her a hostage to fortune as well. The police could knock this on the head within weeks or it could still be trundling on when she's stood stumping for Labour in the middle of a general election campaign and being peppered with questions about it from journalists.
     
  29. If that is it - really? Really?
     
  30. V Crabro

    V Crabro Reservist

    I wonder if there are some Tory MPs who wish that the Daily Mail would drop this line of attack? A little bit of investigative journalism would probably reveal plenty of them with bigger skeletons in their closets......
     
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  31. Former Tory MP Nick Boles writes:
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  32. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Great summary.
     
  33. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    Grotesque hypocrisy by rich men. What a surprise. Any opportunity to punch down and the cowardly despicable Mail will join in with relish and its readers will nod along in the false belief they are on the side of righteous 'common sense'.

    Having said that, Rayner should be given the same opportunity to repay any tax owed that was afforded to rich Tory Sajid Javid who, it must be pointed out, the Mail didn't go after as hard.
     

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