Pre-season

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by Markoa$, May 25, 2022.

  1. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Would they really pay us just to play a friendly in Austria?

    More likely they were after a team to play and we agreed for whatever reason.
     
  2. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Truly spineless. FTRE have zero credibility.
     
  3. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    I can’t think of any reason you’d agreed to play them, given the obvious bad PR that comes with it, unless there is money changing hands.

    I’m sorry, I can’t believe that we agreed to play them for nothing, just because we both needed a game. The club could have easily found somebody else to play if it was simply about needing a run out.
     
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  4. Vic

    Vic First Year Pro

    There’s stats out there that show the unavailability of Kabasele has coincided with terrible team performances. Make of that what you will.
     
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  5. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    We also have terrible team performances when Kabasele is playing.
     
  6. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    In all seriousness, where are they/what's your source?
     
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  7. LouOrns

    LouOrns First Year Pro

    16/17: 7 starts - 2 draws, 5 losses. 0.28 PPG

    Non starts: 31 times — 11 wins, 15 losses, 5 draws. 1.22 PPG


    17/18: 27 starts — 6 wins, 14 losses, 7 draws. 1.08 PPG

    Non starts: 11 times — 5 wins, 5 losses, 1 draw. 1.45 PPG


    18/19: 19 starts — 6 wins, 9 losses, 4 draws. 1.15 PPG

    Non starts: 19 times — 8 wins, 7 losses, 4 draws. 1.47 PPG


    19/20: 26 starts — 7 wins, 10 losses, 9 draws. 1.15 PPG

    Non starts: 12 times — 1 win, 10 losses, 1 draw. 0.33 PPG


    20/21: 19 starts — 9 wins, 6 losses, 4 draws. 1.63 PPG

    Non starts: 27 times — 18 wins, 3 losses, 6 draws. 2.22 PPG


    21/22: 12 starts — 2 wins, 9 losses, 1 draw. 0.58 PPG

    Non starts: 26 times— 4 wins, 18 losses, 4 draws. 0.61 PPG


    Only time we’ve had a higher points per game with Kabasele in the side was the season we got relegated in 19/20
     
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  8. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Ouch, that's pretty conclusive. Kaba contract extension incoming.
     
  9. Vic

    Vic First Year Pro

    Just stoking the fire. Not really that into stats personally. Much prefer hearsay. Sure I heard it somewhere
     
  10. Vic

    Vic First Year Pro

    But LOL at anyone who thinks WTE is a better player. Don’t need stats to know that he’s awful and Kaba’s better
     
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  11. Vic

    Vic First Year Pro

    Kaba did well in all those games. Let down by his woeful teammates. There’s stats out there
     
  12. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    :mad:
     
  13. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Really don't think we're at a point where the term 'better' is appropriate to be used in the discussion, because that attaches too positive a fundamental grounding to either of them. But I also don't think anyone is actually making the argument that WTE is better - purely that Kabasele is essentially useless, and has been for the large majority of his time here.
     
  14. Vic

    Vic First Year Pro

    I have no problem with you holding that opinion. Having opinions is what being a fan is about. But I disagree and don’t think Kabasele is useless. I think he’s a much better player than people give him credit for. But I accept that he’s not shown enough of his potential.
     
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  15. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

  16. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

  17. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Qatar. Oh dear. That is so tone deaf. And makes us look bad.
    Just sends out all sorts of bad signals.
    There is absolutely no footballing reason to purposely pick to play them. There presumably is some other hidden reason.

    It would be good if we could have some friendlies against lower league opposition at their grounds and a few local ones thrown in.
     
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  18. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

  19. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Not a problem anymore. The game has been cancelled.
    Watford cancel Qatar friendly after opposition from fans' groups | Watford Observer
     
  20. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    That was predictable!

    Bad PR move in the first place .
     
  21. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    "The game was never finalised" - oh riiiiight mate

    Publishing things is pretty final in most walks of life.
     
  22. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

  23. J.B

    J.B First Team

    Another PR clusterf**k that could have been avoided had the club listened to supporters in the first place and not tried to see if they could get away with it first. Now they've pissed people off, caused further divisions in the fanbase, presumably lost a fair bit of money and disrupted an already truncated pre-season.

    More great work by the stability!
     
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  24. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Can't see the money angle to be honest. Glorified training ground game at camp in Austria doesn't exactly seem like a money-spinner, even if Qatar are paying to play.
     
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  25. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    The snowflakes now want Watford's game with Cambridge Utd cancelled because of the Cambridge Analytica data scandal.
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2022
  26. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    You can joke all you like, but I don't want us going anywhere near Cambridge. The boat race result from this year still rankles.
     
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  27. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

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  29. And the game with Millwall because they're ****s.
     
  30. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I’ve reported you to the Dyslexia Supporters Group. I’m sure you’ll be hearing from them very soon.
     
  31. MarlonsCellMate

    MarlonsCellMate Reservist

    Good on the Women of Watford and Proud Hornets groups actually speaking up about it and publicly calling the club out.

    I think people can draw their own conclusions on which of the 'fan representatives' are bit more free thinking and which are the yes men. Especially those which have been vocal about the Qatar World Cup, but not this.
     
  32. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    We’re expected the believe that a club which takes a month to announce a new signing published a list of unconfirmed friendlies?

    At least certain commissars can now publicly comment on this and make vague allusions to solidarity ‘behind the scenes’…
     
  33. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    "snowflakes" seriously? Grow up.
     
  34. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Glad we wont be playing them for the right reasons and the fact they are such a poor side anyway. Might as well have arranged a fixture against the local pub side.
     
  35. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    If we're going to the same place as last time the local club would appear to be SC Going who play in the '1. Klasse Ost', one of the 7th tier leagues in Austria. Sounds tinpot enough.

    The local "pub" appears to be Gasthof Stanglwirt, but don't think they have a proper team. Albeit they do seem to host the occasional coaching session for kids, so maybe that's one to give our U 23s a runout for.

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    https://www.stanglwirt.com/de/ueber-uns/soziales-engagement/kinder-fussballtage-beim-stanglwirt.html
     
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