Do you really think they can? I reckon at best we're in the realms of delaying it but no more. Every time we've squashed it they learn from how we did it and adapt.
They couldnt stop the North Koreans who probably had some help from Chyna and Russia, I dont imagine Eyeran would be short of help either.
Even if it put them back a few years it would be something. Hopefully the nice Iranians would then rise up and chuck out the hardline fruit cakes before they managed to put it back together again
You are an idiot and so is anyone else who thinks that any politician cares about them Pick a side huh ? Pick **** or **** . It is all **** . And you and all of you morons keep picking a different type of **** . You think I'm mad then talk to me about that warmonger Blair Idiots the lot of you I sleep .......
You are a buffoon and those who die because of conflict should be on your conscience. But you are so thick you can't see it .
Morons all of you demanding War . And you idiots have the bare faced cheek to call me Gammon/Nazi etc etc Because that is what you clowns are .....
I’m not seeing who is demanding war (apart from @Lloyd whose tongue is somewhat in cheek anyway). Many of us are asking for a ceasefire and those supporting the IDF didn’t want war in the first place, want hostages returned now. I’m not sure what your own position is on this one.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/sGBfQTeKjKetLPCP/?mibextid=UalRPS Imagine having ballistic and cruise missiles fired at you and the world says show restraint. thank god for the Iron Dome
More like thank the United States for the Iron Dome, no? And yes, Israel needs to publicly show restraint in its response. It's won this round and looks stronger for swatting off Iran's attack. If a few months down the line in the background a prominent Iranian politician / military officer was to spontaneously explode, or a Iranian nuclear processing plant happened across a computer virus, or an Iranian navy vessel in the Gulf were to suddenly spring a leak, well, these things happen. But lets not go for some big macho show of strength which leaves the other side with no choice but to save face by responding further. In this instance that requires Israel to step back. Whether it's political leadership are capable or willing to do that we'll find out in the coming days I guess.
Yes, well there are quite a few people there, not just Israelis who don't have to only imagine having missiles fired at them and bombs let off. There was nobody killed and nobody injured, right? Minimal damage to infrastructure. It was an attack in retaliation. Now Israel says a bigger retaliation is in order and is certain. Iran says it will then retaliate even bigger. Anyone can see where that is leading surely? Is there no possible way in your view that things could be calmed down? No possible way for peace? Doesn't the Jewish religion say anything about turning the other cheek for once?
Without the Iron Dome that attack would have been a massacre. An annihilation. Let’s not play it down, Iran sent over ballistic missiles with an intent to kill. There’s not one country in the world if, upon being attacked like that, would turn a blind eye. Not UK, not, Cuba, not US and not Iran. not one Iran are co-ordinating an all out war on all fronts vs Israel and it now has three choices. respond with an absolute show of force which is the only thing people understand in this region. And gives them the option of harming Obama’s Iranian nuclear programme. But will escalate the war respond in a way that’s a slapped hand which is pointless listen to the world who are crying out to disarm Israel and then tell them not to respond when attacked. But may help them improve relations with US and secure new weapons deal to ensure the Iron Dome keeps doing its job this is Bibi so who knows what he will do
But the question surely is without the Iron Dome would Iran have launched the attack? We'll never know for sure but given they telegraphed the attack so much - to the extent of warning neighbouring countries, tipping off the Israelis and US and pretty much putting out a press release to tell the whole world it was coming - there's at least some sign they had little meaningful intent to go beyond a sabre rattling. I absolutely accept it would have been very scary as a civilian on the ground. I also accept it had a big financial cost for Israel - I've read upwards of $1bn for the interceptors and other countermeasures launched in this one event alone. But there seems little point structuring a response based on what might have been rather than what was. There was no massacre, there was no significant damage and, as I said, Israel's come out of this looking stronger. They've shown they have strong defences and any similar attacks would have to take on Russia v Ukraine proportions of relentlessness to exhaust their ability to intercept them - a capacity Iran isn't believed to have. Plus aside from the usual allies, countries not usually first to jump up and defend Israel took counter-action to take out the Iranian missiles too and have publicly told Iran they don't support further action like that. We also have to be careful not slip into pretending this came entirely out of the blue. A week before Israel did its own thing to punch Iran in the balls, continuing a long trend of one side doing something and the other side responding going back decades. Plus I don't actually think the world is calling on Israel to 'turn a blind eye'. Reading between the lines the message is to quite clearly to avoid an escalatory response.
Iran fired dozens of powerful missiles at Israel and we demand that they respond in a low key way. Meanwhile our police continue to tiptoe around the extremely unpleasant marchers that make parts of London no-go areas at weekends. When did we become so spineless?
I think the UK should use this time to re-invade a couple of countries. Ireland to start with. Then Iceland. With Iran and Israel likely to wipe each other out, it's Italy and Iraq and India and Indonesia that we need to worry about before we can completely dominate the I countries.
Well given any response will likely provoke a further response from Iran which our RAF / Navy will have to get involved in (something I'm supportive of) then yeah, we have a say. The day Israel can do it all on its own they're free to crack on as they wish I guess.
What is it you want to be done? Iran is almost impossible to invade and subjugate, so presumably you just want ordnance chucked at it? Has it also completely passed you by that Israel attacked an Iranian embassy last week, killing two generals? Israel may have had reasons, with Iran, accused of sponsoring terrorism, but for years both sides have undertaken it through proxies. If you want war, there is plenty on offer, but then what next? Why not cut the chase and move onto the ‘what next’ now?
Iran want a full out war to drag other countries in the region into it. Full on holy war boner kinda people in charge in Iran. The "best" thing Israel should do is hit a couple of air bases where they were attacked from and leave it at that. Iran isnt a threat to Israel when it comes to conventional warfare. Calling for restraint from Israel is a good thing considering they havnt shown much of that lately and any errors in judgement could be critical to the rest of the world this time. Bad things happen when states are run by religious fruitcakes with a bent ideology, human history is kind of defined by it unfortunately.
Allowing free speech is having a spine. Plus the Police have been stripped of any real legitmacy over the last 16 years or so but constant cut backs. There is a small minority within these protest marches taking it too far but I think the Polices handling of it has been good, why risk a full on riot. Police commanders are heavily trained in the psychological aspects of protest and crowd control, if they waded in trying to grab a small minority of protesters out of a larger group then things might escalate.
