Goal Or No Goal?

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by UEA_Hornet, Nov 29, 2023.

  1. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  2. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    No. No goal.

    He went down like he'd been shot, admittedly; but didn't the nudge cause him to drop the ball? I'd say that was a foul.
     
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  3. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

  4. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Goal, although I was a keeper in my time I have no sympathy. The drop ball was given, the keeper wasted time, he invited the striker to come close, he didn't hold the ball firmly enough and a slight touch he dropped the ball. Had he not faffed around, it wouldn't have happened.

    Having said that, imagine if that was the Man Utd keeper at Old Trafford, the referee would need massive cojones to give that.
     
  5. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Given where his feet were set he had no option but to fall when pushed. I think that's a foul as I don't think he dived. Poetic justice maybe given he was time wasting and was looking for the foul anyway but striker can't push a player over and benefit.
     
  6. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    100% a goal. Theatrics by the keeper, that nudge wouldn't normally push over a child let alone a fully grown athlete. Idiot.
     
  7. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    It's difficult to judge, but it does look like the GK was playing for the foul to happen and after the ball was initially dropped it was in play, so the Barnsley player had the right to attempt for the ball. Nudging him over and him going down like Wilfred Zaha makes no difference.

    VAR would of ruled it out for a foul on the keeper.
     
  8. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    If that had been in the PL with a big team probably would have been ruled out !

    Apparently the keeper had been time wasting for a while.
     
  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Sure, but you still can't foul him because of that. I think he was rather clever in suckering the striker into comitting the foul.
     
  10. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Except it wasn't a foul. Supposedly.

    So not that clever really...
     
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  11. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    Definitely a goal.
     
  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    It was given as a foul but by being pushed over the keeper had done enough to earn a foul. The mistake he made was to allow the ball to slip from his grasp which left him exposed if a foul wasn't given. I know you don't like to agree with me, but we both believe a foul should have been given, don't we ?
     
  13. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I think it was a foul, yes. But I don't think he was being very clever given that the referee evidently did not think so. It doesn't strike me as all that smart to try to second-guess a referee.

    Personally I think the ball slipped from his grasp because he was nudged and went over, not that he made a mistake in that respect.
     
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  14. K9 Hornet

    K9 Hornet Border Collie Dog

    Definite goal. 91st minute as well. Ho ho
     
  15. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It wasn't. Goal stood. 91st minute winner. And a Wycombe player got a second yellow for dissent for protesting it.
     
  16. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes I know. Not sure what I was trying to type at the start of that sentence ! I'm currently in a quarterly Board meeting.
     
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  17. K9 Hornet

    K9 Hornet Border Collie Dog

    Paying due attention then :)
     
  18. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    50% here, 50% the Board on Teams. Trouble is I wear glasses on pc so worried they might see WFC forums in the reflection.
     
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  19. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Well now we know you're not giving us your full attention I've reported your post. Hopefully the mods haul you in for a gross misconduct hearing.
     
  20. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    It's been coming...
     
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  21. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    A ban from WFC forums and the next 2 board meetings. Seems overly harsh.
     
  22. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I think you're probably looking at a demotion to the politics forum for the next 3 months.
     
  23. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    ...living on borrowed time...
     
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  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Bloody hell, that's a bit steep, you're throwing me in the slammer ?
    [​IMG]
     
  25. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    :eek::eek::eek:
     
  26. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    "Hey CleyHorn/KelsoOrn...is that you?"
     
  27. K9 Hornet

    K9 Hornet Border Collie Dog

    WFC Forums has no reflection. It is the online equivalent of the undead
     
  28. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    All this shows is that VAR cannot work .
    We have a different set of opinions on this from a variety of football people
    who know their stuff .
    Back to the question .
    It's a goal and the 'keeper should learn never to go "full Porteous" again .
     
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  29. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Not only that, but we’ve seen this week that in different countries and in different competitions there are different official interpretations of VAR incidents. It’s crazy and is ruining football.
     
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  30. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Even going over, he had no reason to spill the ball, except for his own silliness. Goal.
     
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  31. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  32. westbridgfordhornet

    westbridgfordhornet First Year Pro

    Couldn't see it from multiple replays, penny only dropped later. Not seen one like that before.
     
  33. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    From a single viewing I'd guess that an offside player obstructed the keepers view or got a deflection.
     
  34. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    You'd be wrong - to see the reason, make sure you watch the whole reply when the commentators are trying to figure it out....
     
  35. Dreadnought

    Dreadnought MMC 2010/11 Prediction league 3rd 2011/12

    I had already seen why it was disallowed and wow amazing that someone even noticed and realised that had happened and not something that will happen that often either.
     

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