Ghost Ghoul Attwell - Pispoor The Unfriendly Ghost

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by reg_varney, Apr 27, 2024.

  1. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

  2. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

  3. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I remember that game quite fondly as I was in attendance. Game itself ended 2-2 so thankfully we managed to equalise but that moment cast a big question mark over the intelligence of officials even back then. Aidy's comments about the UFO landing were funny but a fair assessment. I would probably blame the linesman over Attwell for flagging the goal to begin with, but with nobody in black with a brain larger than a walnut, the outcome was obvious. As an aside, I loved that kit.
     
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  4. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    I’ve been watching football for over 50 years…and that was still the most incompetent moment of officialdom that I’ve ever seen. For those that witnessed it live you genuinely thought Jeremy Beadle was about to set foot on the pitch
     
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  5. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    The second most disappointing thing that day was that Reading, managed by Steve Coppell, didn’t voluntarily concede a goal to us to right the wrong.
     
  6. K9 Hornet

    K9 Hornet Border Collie Dog

    I was down the Vic Rd end so couldn't understand what was happening. Remember that git Hunt celebrating like it was a genuine goal.
     
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  7. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Well, you know how the saying goes...

    Hunt by name....
     
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  8. MarlonsCellMate

    MarlonsCellMate Reservist

    It would have been one of his best gotchas considering he was already dead.
     
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  9. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    Yes, that celebration still rankles now. I didn't remember Coppell offering to replay the game or even telling his players to let us score. I think this was bollox. Noel Hunt jumping around celebrating when he knew that the ball was nowhere near the goal just summed up Coppell's Reading's attitude.

    I remember it sparked a moribund game to life and we went 2-1 up but couldn't hold on. Probably the most bizarre thing I've ever seen live. Given his allegiances why was Atwell given the game. Mark Halsey who used to live in Welwyn Garden City, he was never allowed to ref us even though he followed another team. Surely you shouldn't be able to ref your local teams, the team you follow, or their historic rivals.
     
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  10. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Still remember it, I was behind it in the Rookery. First he awarded a goal kick, then not just a goal but an own goal. I think at first I thought he'd changed his mind and given a corner which was outrageous enough until I realised he'd given a goal. He cannot be a premier league referee on merit because he has a career of idiotic mistakes, especially early on. Wasn't he on some fast track fa programme?
     
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  11. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Think the assistant got most of the blame if I remember.
     
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  12. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    At the time I figured I missed something. And that it was cleared off the line (and over it according to the lino) rather than simply flush off the bar. In the scramble the lino flagged it was over the line and the ref - figuring as I did, that I'd missed something as it hit the bar, didn't overrule the flag. I can see how it happened.

    Still sums up the ref, the fa and the system that he was then fast tracked into the premier league.
     
  13. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    He’s an odious, incompetent vile piece of **** that should be nowhere near the game.

    To think we are actually sending him to represent our country at the Euros is a humiliation.

    We can add him to the list of most of our Eurovision entries of recent years, and that hideous buffoon of a Foreign Secretary who then went on to be Prime Minister.

    You can bet your bottom dollar Atwell will mess up on VAR duties in Germany and the scorn of a nation wronged will fall upon us all.

    It’s just awful.
     
  14. Jossy

    Jossy Reservist

    Does anybody know what the rules actually state regarding referees and the clubs they aren't allowed to officiate due to their associations with specific teams?

    Reason I ask - there was an article in The Mail (yeah I know...) that was discussing the appointment of Jarred Gillett on VAR for the north London derby. In it there was a throwaway line regarding him being unable to officiate on Liverpool games due to being a fan, but also that he isn't allowed to ref Everton matches because of his Liverpool association.

    Of course The Mail has a reputation for just making things up which could be the case here - but if it's not then I think Watford as a club would have every right to ask why Attwell is allowed to take charge of our matches if Gillett is barred from doing so for his team's rivals. After all, we have a quite significant example to use as evidence for his personal allegiance potentially swaying his on-field decision making.

    Here's the article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...inst-Tottenham-huge-impact-title-pursuit.html

    Here's the bit in question:

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  15. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    If I remember correctly then reading game was live on TV, at half time everyone in the stand I was in (Rookery) at least, knew it was a mistake, I would say Attwell tried to even things up by giving us a penalty to put us at 1-1 or 2-1 I’m not sure which, but unfortunately someone made an error in defence and Reading equalised for a 2-2.

    The question has to be why wasn’t the incompetent fool binned straight away instead of being promoted to the Premier League not long after, it beggars belief really!
     
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  16. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Hi Teide. Reading actually had the penalty, not us. And in a very small defence of Atwell, it was the linesman who signalled for the goal and he went along with the decision.

    Blimey. I never thought I’d say anything in defence of him. I’m off for a lie down.
     
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  17. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    Yes, he was, and the powers that be couldn't be seen to have dropped a large bollock with their chosen one.
     
  18. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    It just beggars belief doesn’t it that even if your linesman flags for a goal that you yourself never saw, that not one supporter in the Reading end was cheering or any of the Reading players were celebrating. Surely the penny would have dropped then and you’d go talk to the linesman to see what he thought he’d seen and then correct him?

    So you didn’t see a goal (as there wasn’t one) and you weren’t aware of any player reaction or celebrating in the stand, but seeing as your linesman flagged for a goal you thought you’d better award one despite all the evidence in front of you.

    That’s why he should never have been allowed to officiate again.

    But oh no, it’s English football so we promote inadequacy.
     
  19. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    I was in the Rookery and remember this well. The injustice did seem to galvanise us, but it is huge incompetence. An error of that magnitude in any of our jobs would probably see us dismissed, but instead Atwell has continued to fall upwards. Quite baffling really.

    Noel Hunt is a ****. Celebrating like he'd scored the winning goal in a World Cup final. Reading were classless too, they should've allowed us to walk the ball into an empty net. I would fully expect us to do the same thing as well if the shoe was on the other foot before anyone suggests otherwise.
     
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  20. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Ah well I got that all wrong, I was mesmerised by such a momentous joke of a goal that the rest of the match is just one big blurr!
     
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  21. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    What happened to the assistant who thought it was a goal originally ?
     
  22. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    No prob. I didn’t mean to correct you in a schoolmasterly sort of way. You’re right that the ghost goal completely overshadowed everything else.

    For the record we scored twice in the first 20 minutes of the second half, only to concede a penalty 3 minutes from the end.

    Poor Scott Loach, victim of the goal that never was, wasn’t even meant to be playing. He came on for the injured Mart Poom after only 3 minutes.

    And @wfcwarehouse the ironic thing of N Hunt celebrating was the ‘goal’ didn’t even get credited to him anyway in the end, but as a Eustace own goal!
     
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  23. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    "Beadles not about".
     
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  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Pen was given for a foul throw in their own half IIRC ?!!
     
  25. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist


    He was stood down from officiating after the incident but later returned as an assistant, including in the PL.
     
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  26. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    He went on to release a number of famous hits, including Isn't She Lovely.
     
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  27. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Sadly missed by a generation gone by. Beadle wasn't quite Forsythe levels of entertainment, but he was a genuine bloke. Had one of the catchiest theme songs.

     
  28. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    He wasn’t one of our better signings from Spurs though.
     
  29. K9 Hornet

    K9 Hornet Border Collie Dog

    It was the other Hunt brother I remember celebrating, with his shaggy black hair flopping about. Absolute bell end.

    Penalty was conceded in front of me at the Vic Rd end and looked a fair decision iirc
     
  30. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Saw a brilliant one on YouTube randomly a few months back. They picked some xenophobic tradesman with a van and stuck an articulated lorry in his drive manned by a couple of stereotypical French guys, then had some council jobsworth arrive and tell him it was a new extension of the Entente Cordiale.

    Obviously the bloke lost it completely held back by his wife “what about my f888ing tools?” while council guy said “the great thing is if you are in a Paris suburb you can use a drive there”.
     
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  31. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Sometimes went too far though. I remember a tradesman, who was uninsured, watching what he thought was his van containing his whole business/tools etc being driven off a quay into the sea. If that had been me, and he'd appeared from round a corner with a smile on his face, I'd have beaten him to a pulp and stuck his mic "where the sun don't shine".
     
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  32. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Pretty sure he pre-dated Noel Edmonds "Gotcha!", which was a very similar premise. Then those two idiots Ant and Dec copied the format also, badly.
     
  33. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    By a long way,
     
  34. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Shall we talk about your unresolved anger issues?
     
  35. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Yes. The best (and more believable ones) were the more subtle ones that relied on the victim gradually spinning themselves into a state of fury.
     

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