Does Football Need A 60-minute 'stop-clock'?

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by FromDiv4, May 6, 2022.

  1. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

  2. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Would certainly love to see it trialed at the very least.

    The downside for us this season would’ve been having to endure an extra 7 minutes each game though.
     
  3. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    7 minutes of play yes, but I would think less time overall.
    We may of conceded some extra goals, but not wasted as much time suffering it.
     
  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Refs don’t seem to trust themselves to deal with the problem appropriately.

    Don’t want to send anyone off for time wasting or aren’t that bothered being strict on it ?
     
  5. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    What a great idea. Worth a trial.
     
  6. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Trial it in a lower league like they did with kick ins in the 1990s
     
  7. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It won't happen. Not because it's not a good idea, or because it wouldn't work by seriously reducing the incentive for time-wasting, or because the key people (players, managers, officials) etc wouldn't support it.

    It won't happen because broadcasters will hate it. Barring a big injury or a dodgy ticker incident in the stands they can predict to within 5 minutes when a regular league game will end and so easily line up games back to back. This idea would seriously threaten that and so they'll make sure it doesn't happen.
     
  8. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Definitely worth a try. Timewasting has become a ridiculously common problem that's ruining the spectacle.

    Be interesting to see if it gets any traction.
     
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  9. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    I'm less worried about timewasting than about inconsistency in time added on. I'm all in favour of a stopclock.
     
  10. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Tempting, but my concern would be this is another way the top of the game would be differentiated from all other levels. We already have VAR only in the PL and this would be a further divergence.
     
  11. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.
     
  12. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I think an independent time keeper would be good. I would also like to throw in a no subs after 85mins rule except for a serious injury, or if a game goes into extra time in a cup match.
     
  13. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Too much like American sports.

    It’s a no for me, Jeff.
     
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  14. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    That's generally not a problem with regards to us. If we're losing - end the game ASAP. If we are winning - time please!
     
  15. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    Why can't this be applied to every level?
    It's doesn't need any new technology, just the ref stopping and starting thier watch.
     
  16. CarlosKickaballs

    CarlosKickaballs Forum Picarso

    Trial it in the [current sponsor] cup
     
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  17. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    The season would be over before Burnley finished a match
     
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  18. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Problem is the refs. They can already book players for time wasting and add on time for it. But they are cowards and just make theatrical points to their watches and then do nothing except add on a token extra 2 minutes for 7 minutes of time wasting.

    To be fair the one time a ref gave two yellows for time wasting (was if Northern Ireland?) all the d1ckhead pundits said he had ruined the match, so what can they do.
     
  19. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Yes - yellow card after half an hour for time wasting on a throw in.

    https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/jamal-lewis-red-card-throw-northern-ireland-switzerland-1241196

    And as you say everyone then complained.
     
  20. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I think it would be interesting to see how teams like Burnley would react, considering the more they wasted time the longer the game would go on for. A bit like Bachmann feigning a pathetic injury against Brentford, it massively backfired as they scored the winner in the subsequent added time he himself created.
     
  21. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    You’re right in theory, but nobody would accept that (at the top level at least) because it would essentially be no different to now. The aim would be to take away the refs discretion as has been happening with other laws of the game.
     
  22. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    I think it's a good idea but will not work. Would rather watch 55 minutes of football in 90 with the current way than 60 minutes of football in 130 minutes with this idea as they stop for a drink, ad breaks and a breather every 5 minutes.
     
  23. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    Or you could watch 60mins of football in 70mins because there is no benefit for teams to take so long over throw-ins and goal kicks.
     
  24. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I’m not sure why it would be in anyones interest to do that, but the normal rules of football would still apply, just because the clock temporarily stopped the players can’t just decide to all have a drink or a rest, in the same want they can’t now.
     
  25. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    As in rugby have an independent timekeeper. Get rid of all the time wasting tactics from substitutions in injury time and later and other ruses.
     
  26. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    So does hockey - the umpires have to right to stop and turn back the clock.

    Also anyone rolling about on the deck in agony for more than, say, 15 sec has to be removed from the field of play for a full medical assessment.

    FIFA always say that radical changes to refereeing can't be made (except with VAR) as they can't be introduced throughout the game's pyramid of levels - I can't see why an independent time keeper can't be introduced.
     
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  27. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Make it a function of VAR. The refs sat on their fat arses at Stockley park can earn their paycheck.

    Add time on at the end for time wasted deemed excesive, as they do now to normal play and then report on it on a match by match basis. We'll then see who tries to play the system most.
     
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