(1) Daniel Bachmann

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by hornmeister, Aug 13, 2017.

  1. Watford Town

    Watford Town Academy Graduate

    There aren't really any feasible ones of those going right now, I don't think.
     
  2. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Didn't think they bothered with that
     
  3. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Since 2012, of the starting goalkeepers we've had Bachmann is only above Bond in my view at peak form. Bond was similarly a brave and strong shot stopper, but his relative inexperience handling a congested box and dangerous parrying stopped him being a higher level than League 1 / Lower Championship goalkeeper. (Though for LA Galaxy, his parrying and box command is still underdeveloped) What I don't understand is where Bachmann's handling and parrying ability has gone. It's massively regressed. Bachmann's lack of relative experience to his age is also a detrimental factor. Okoye comparatively had more senior appearances than Bachmann did when Okoye joined. (84 Bachmann vs 107 Okoye beginning of last Season) and one of the reasons I thought Okoye would be No. 1. Bachmann now has 129 senior appearances (45 appearances last Season) despite the 5 year age gap.
    1. Gomes (2014 - 2017)
    2. Foster (2018-2020)
    3. Almunia (2012-2013)
    4. Bachmann
    5. Bond (2013-2014)
     
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  4. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I agree, Bachmann is behind the three you've listed, but let's not forget, Bachmann was originally only a backup keeper. He was third choice behind Foster and Gomes at one time. He's only a number one keeper now because of the continued squad regression over the past 4-years. In my opinion, he should really be judged among the backup keepers, of which he's probably the best we've had. He shouldn't really be a number one starter though, but that's purely down to the incompetence of our squad build over the past 4 seasons.
     
  5. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Now Brighton have signed a new keeper from Anderlecht, I wonder if Jason Steele would be worth looking at, maybe for a season loan? Can’t imagine he’d want to stay there as third choice, especially as he displaced Sánchez for a while last season.
     
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  6. Watford Town

    Watford Town Academy Graduate

    No chance - Steele would surely stay as 1st or 2nd choice. He'd actually completely displaced Sanchez as no.1 and if anything they'll sell Sanchez this summer.

    Even if Steele does somehow leave there'll be bigger clubs in for him than us based on his recent form.
     
  7. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Don’t ask, don’t get!

    Substitute Sánchez for Steele in my post then! Unless they sell, yesterday’s new signing will mean they have a very experience number three
     
  8. Watford Town

    Watford Town Academy Graduate

    You also think we could sign Sanchez?!

    Lol.
     
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  9. Watford Town

    Watford Town Academy Graduate

    What are any examples of who this obtainable keeper might be who our defence could have more confidence in than Bachmann?
     
  10. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    Begovic
     
  11. Watford Town

    Watford Town Academy Graduate

  12. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    @Watford Town Yes I agree with you it’s unlikely

    I was just thinking about PL clubs this coming season who might have a number 3 they would consider loaning out
     
  13. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I'm not that particular. Any competent goalkeeper who's comfortable commanding his box, coming off his line and distributing the ball would fit the bill. Despite Bachmann being very weak on those it's not like these are unusual skills. I should think most League 1 goalkeepers could do it well enough for starters.
     
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  14. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Carl Rushworth from Brighton is who we should be going for in my opinion. Great loan at Lincoln. Now he needs the step up to a mid table championship team like us.
     
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  15. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    No thanks.
     
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  16. Watford Town

    Watford Town Academy Graduate

    I think you vastly over-estimate how many GKs there are in the Championship who fit that description.
     
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  17. Watford Town

    Watford Town Academy Graduate

    "Great" loan? Really? Can't say I know much about him, but just based on his stats he doesn't seem to be especially good at anything.

    Not sure someone of his profile is likely to inspire more confidence in the defence.
     
  18. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I can't quite work out if yours is a defence of Bachmann or just a pessimistic view that we can find a better replacement?
     
  19. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I agree. Begovic is a really poor keeper now. He was dreadful in that Bournemouth relegation season. So slow, can’t dive, poor reactions. A big no from me if we went anywhere this guy,
     
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  20. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

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  21. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    He really is poor. Any Watford Fan that wants him here, hasn’t got a clue. Has barely kicked a ball for 3 years as well. So many better options out there. If we sign him, then Gino has lost the plot.
     
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  22. Watford Town

    Watford Town Academy Graduate

    It's a mild case of both.

    While I'm aware Bachmann wasn't great last season, even in a below par season for him he was and still is one of the better keepers in the Championship. I'm sure there were more instances of other teams' GKs costing them goals against us than vice versa for instance.

    If there was a clear upgrade available who would join us like a Gomes or Almunia then great, let's swap them. But there don't appear to be many obvious candidates for such a role.

    As it is, with our current status in the Championship, and likely limited funds, we might not be in a position to sign anyone who would be a noticeable improvement.
     
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  23. Watford Town

    Watford Town Academy Graduate

    Those are alright in fairness, but they're also very similar overall to Bachmann's stats from the Championship (a tougher division) in 20/21, shown below for comparison.

    I haven't seen Bachmann's chart for last season, it will probably be a slight drop from his one in the earlier Champ season, but then you'd also think Rushworth's could drop a bit as he goes up a division. Plus Bachmann could still get over last season's blip.

    There seems little to suggest Rushworth would be better than Bachmann from that at any rate.

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  24. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Karius at Newcastle could be available. Still only 29 I believe. He's the closest to a Gomes or Almunia I can think of.
     
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  25. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Karius would be decent at this level. Would be very happy if we made a move for him.
     
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  26. Watford Town

    Watford Town Academy Graduate

    That would be excellent, but if he leaves Newcastle there'd surely be bigger clubs interested. It's also rumoured he might try and move to Italy to be with his Italian gf.
     
  27. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Maybe, maybe not. Guaranteed starting position would certainly entice him I believe.
    If he looks back on what Almunia and Gomes achieved here he surely would be tempted.
    As for the Italian gf I had no idea about her. Could see him moving that way.
     
  28. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

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  30. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

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  31. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Instantly goes from a C- to an F.
     
  32. PowerJugs

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  33. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    I'd be fine with this if Bachmann was somebody else
     
  34. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Squad Player

  35. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Could do better than him, could do worse.

    He comes across as a good club man with a good attitude, which is what we’ve all been crying out for more of in our squad these past months.

    Obvious limitations though for our new playing style.

    I’m more concerned about our lack of back-up in that position.
     
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