Championship - 2022/23

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by StuBoy, May 10, 2022.

  1. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Lol, Blackburn and Coventry drawing - which was the ideal result. Norwich dropping points away at QPR. Preston losing to Swansea. Could hardly have asked for more from the other games.
     
  2. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    This match was a great example of how FUN, EXCITING and UNPREDICTABLE this great league is.
     
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  3. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    It's an easy division to get out of. Especially with parachute payments. Unless you happen to be run by a clueless oaf.
     
  4. dsr

    dsr Academy Graduate

    The irony from Burnley's point of view is that the club hasn't had the benefit of parachute payments, because the owners have copped the lot to pay their own debts. Burnley's funding this year was from selling every player that had value (apart from Brownhill and Roberts) and rebuilding from floor level.
     
  5. dsr

    dsr Academy Graduate

    You needn't worry about Burnley being relaxed for the Blackburn game. It's as intense a local derby as you get (though Blackburn's apathy, and their deliberate ploy to leave 6,000 seats empty in the away end when they could have made £180,000 in ticket sales from them, won't help.)
     
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  6. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    No one cares about that game anymore unfortunately.
     
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  7. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Squad Player

    Not going to get into the play-offs with 68 points though, and that's without factoring in the way we've been playing for the last three months (even if Leicester did manage that in 2012/13).
     
  8. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Not sure how many more points Sheff Utd need to claim second but it cannot be many, so here is my predicted final top 6:

    1 Burnley(C)(P)
    2 Sheff Utd (P)
    3 Middlesbrough (P)
    4 Luton
    5 Millwall
    6 Coventry


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    Play offs SF Leg One:

    Coventry 2 - 2 Middlesbrough
    Millwall 1 Luton 0

    Play offs SF Leg Two:

    Middlesbrough 2 Coventry 1
    Luton 2 Millwall 1 *Luton win 5-4 on pens

    -------------------------------------------

    Play off Final:

    Luton 1 Middlesbrough 3

    -------------------------------------------

    I think Boro will be too strong for Coventry over the two legs, but there is absolutely no reason Coventry cannot kick on next season and do just as well.
    Luton will edge Millwall over the two legs but it will be very close.
    Boro, who have easily been the third best side all season over the course of the season will win the final at a canter.
     
  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Luton will go up. You know it. I know it. We all know it.
     
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  10. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I just try not to think about it
     
  11. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Please STOP!
     
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  12. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    There was an article in the papers about how LT will have to pony up 10M for ground improvements
    if they go up . Players and agents will be demanding outrageous wages . Every cloud .......
     
  13. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    £10m on ground improvements, £100m+ in prize money.
     
  14. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    And if they actually have 4 stands can get greater revenue from extra crowd receipts etc.
     
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  15. BeersThen

    BeersThen Reservist

    And Hodgson saves Palace. The season that keeps on giving.
     
  16. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Due to the nature of the PL that £10m of improvements would be spent entirely on facilitating tv coverage and other media and broadcaster requirement. None of it is for the benefit of the fans and anyway, there’s no way they’re building new stands at that dump when they’ve got plans to move in the next 3 years.

    I’m sure Linekar would get one of the executive chalets though!
     
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  17. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

  18. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    This is a strange comment in that article, unless it’s an architectural term I’m unaware of?


    Project architect AndArchitects made a number of consultations with football enthusiasts and professionals to identify their key expectations for the stadium.

    The consultations resulted in the identification of a number of design and structure elements, which were included in the final design of the stadium. Some of the elements included a soulless bowl, four stands, a low roof and proximity to the pitch. Steep raked seating, safe standing spaces and a home end have also been incorporated.
     
  19. Stuey

    Stuey Reservist

    They are already insufferable as it is just by being above us in the league. If I have to see yet another "Mind the gap" joke...
     
  20. Ilkley

    Ilkley Formerly known as An Ilkley Orn Baht 'at

    Talking of our dear neighbours...

    I have plotted how our rating has changed over the season compared to them and Burnley.

    I have used the FiveThirtyEight Soccer Power Index (SPI). This is the percentage of available points a team would expect to get if they repeatedly played an average team at a neutral venue. (For reference UAE are rated 92.3, Real Madrid 88.0 and Ipswich 48.0)

    For clarity I have plotted only the trend lines, not the individual data points.

    So, ***** Town got better, plateaued, changed their manager and got better again.

    We just went downhill all season, just at varying rates.

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    Sources:
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/championship/
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/methodology/how-our-club-soccer-predictions-work/
    Accessed: 21/4/23
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2023
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  21. Ilkley

    Ilkley Formerly known as An Ilkley Orn Baht 'at

    I don't think it's an architectural term. I think it's a communications **** up. My guess is the fans said they did NOT want a soulless bowl of a stadium (like Wet Spam have got) but instead wanted four stands, a low roof and proximity to the pitch i.e. a stadium in which a crowd can generate a good atmosphere.
     
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  22. BeersThen

    BeersThen Reservist


    I assume we're the grey horizontal line at the bottom
     
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  23. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Supporting Coventry if they get in the playoffs
     
  24. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    I hope we don't have a League One 2024/2025 thread soon.
     
  25. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    2 straight wins are we are right back in this.
     
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  26. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Yes seem to be the team in form.

    Millwall bottling in.
     
  27. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Sammie Szmodics you disgusting cheat. Something like that should really be a red.
     
  28. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    Think there is one around somewhere already…
     
  29. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    And a League Two 2025/2026. A happy return to where we belong.
     
  30. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Thought we were just about in with a mathematical hope there for a minute with that Preston equaliser, but I forgot Millwall were playing Blackburn, hopefully we actually will see the kids blooded now!
     
  31. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    We all know we've been ***** for 4 years. But this has been disguised by at least being in the premier league, where relegation is softened by "it's the best league in the world" and being inevitable at some point for a club Watford size, by promotion during COVID where football was upside down (and we were lucky).

    This season? No excuse, no lucky scrape through, no fall guy no COVID, no hiding from the plain truth that the club is doing it wrong.

    Maybe there wasn't a drive to change in the past that is so blindingly obvious now that Pozzos simply can't go on like this? Maybe this will be a good thing. Maybe scraping the play offs would have been the worst outcome possible. Another justification for chaos.
     
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  32. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    Huddersfield (Warnock) making official complaint about Burnley's team selections
    The master of the dark arts not happy . What a shame.
     
  33. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Looks like Burnley had a lot of first team players in the starting line up but naturally they will give others a chance .

    Don’t think it was for the lack of trying either with 81% possession and 21 shots on goal .
     
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  34. andy wfc

    andy wfc Academy Graduate

    Shambles yesterday. No urgency, no fight, no plan. Body language terrible. We just cannot defend, we build so slowly, we seem to try and play through defences and we are not good enough to do so. We don't shoot enough and the ball is not delivered into danger areas quickly enough. Probably let our best striker leave mid season, yes I mean the crow and he was *****. At least we don't have to buy KD for £15 million, the "striker" who is knackered after 30 mins. Even JP and IL have lost the plot. Mass clear out needed, start again with no expectation.
     
  35. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Didn't notice him complaining at our flimsy floozies?
     
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