Ashes 2023

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by BigRossLittleRoss, Jun 11, 2023.

  1. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Well it's your loss that you take everything so seriously, yes. No one else does.

    Anyway, feel free to put me on ignore.
     
  2. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    It’s because I like to not take life seriously that I find your pedantry so dull.

    But yes I think I might take you up on the offer .
     
  3. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Fine, it will be mutual.
     
  4. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    On Sky Butcher just described Brooks bowling style as “ Ministry of Silly Walks”
     
  5. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    It's ok, I think Keighley and TUT are married hence the bickering!
     
  6. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    We probably didn't want the tea break - on a roll and looking very good so far.

    I guess that probably means we are due some rain!
     
  7. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Hopefully
     
  8. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I asked him. He said "No".
     
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  9. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Perhaps we will be like Vince and Penny in 'Just Good Friends'? (One for the kidz there).

    TBF, not sure what the par score for the duration of our union would 'of' been.
     
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  10. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Sneaky bet on an Aussie win or just don't want to water the garden?

    ;)
     
  11. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    At the risk of sounding like Clive... Bairstow...
     
  12. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    If he’d smashed the stumps down the fact he’d broken the stumps before taking the ball would have been irrelevant…total incompetence.
     
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  13. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    If you were Penny, I'd marry you here and now. I wrote to her and got an autographed photo in my teens after seeing her in Secret Army. Jealousy caused me to always hate Paul Nicholas....
     
  14. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    We are in rare agreement here. Very lovely indeed.
     
  15. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Wrong decision for me. Looked pretty out notwithstanding the messy take from Bairstow. Also don’t know why the umpires couldn’t get the two angles side by side the way sky did it. Much clearer to evaluate.
     
  16. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Tickets for Sunday
     
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  17. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    One for you.

     
  18. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Broke the stumps before getting the ball. If you do that you have to remove a stump to complete a run out. Correct decision for me
     
  19. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    The only runs I ever managed to score in my utterly incompetent post-uni cricketing career were as a consequence of a WK 'doing a Bairstow'.
     
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  20. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I'm clearly wrong then :(
     
  21. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Oh no you're not! :D
     
  22. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    I think it’s just that the bail has to be out of both grooves not the removal of a stump. And I think with both angles that appears to be the case.
     
  23. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Bairstow disturbed one bail before he got the ball in his gloves and then did not hit the stumps hard enough to fully dislodge the other bail before Smith got his bat in. Very close decision, and enough doubt to mean it went in the batsman’s favour.
     
  24. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    I know the rule. I’m disagreeing with the decision having watched replays not available to the umpires at the time.

    Incredible dive from Smith though.
     
  25. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    But if there is doubt, shouldn't the batsman benefit from it? If those videos weren't available, there was doubt.
     
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  26. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    I think doubt is increasingly eliminated when videos are used well. We’ve also seen a number of decisions in the series not take that approach to doubt (Smith’s catch of Root is an example that comes to mind) and DRS doesn’t take that approach with LBWs. Sounds like Sky are about to have a segment breaking this down.
     
  27. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Yes, I agree with that (and personally think it has perhaps gone too far the other way) but if the decisive videos simply weren't there at the time and the decision is a tight as this, it seems to me that it is a factor which should still come into play. Vic Marks has just said the same on TMS.
     
  28. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    I agree. But if the umpires were looking at what we were looking at at the time, that’s disappointing. They should have the best split screen available at the moment of the decision.
     
  29. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Yes, true.

    It still trumps VAR though!
     
  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Fair do.

    Hopefully you see some cricket or not enough to get your money back !
     
  31. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Looking at it again, it seems crazy the optical illusion that the bail is still on middle when the side on image shows it isn’t. The pictures appear contradictory (but would think the side on angle rules).

    Think zing bails would be helpful here. I know they are a bit tacky but they would assist umpires in decision making.

    Anyway, 42(?) runs later. Smith is gone. Will be interesting to see how important those 42 runs are.
     
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  32. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    They will be ahead at this rate !
     
  33. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I think they said it was out but took them 50 minutes to prove it!
     
  34. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Is the best series ever?
     
  35. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    It might have been if weather hadn't prevented us winning the last game !
     

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