http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20538540 is there nothing that that occurs these days that actually GETS the punishment it deserves ? the `mother` deserves something an all filth
Everything to me is thrown out of proportion after the Danny Nightingale incident - which in my book is pathetic.
The guy punched the air and mouthed "yes" three times after the sentence. Meanwhile a 3 year old child is dead. Killed by someone who was old enough to know what they were doing. It's sickening. The mother's behaviour and attitude is completely incomprehensible. I use the word "mother" loosely in this context.
words fail me , sometimes i tell myself , DONT read the news , because you see things like this , whereas if i stuck to here , the mma forum i go no and ebay , i would be blissfully unaware!
The thing seems to be that because he was only 16 he's getting a lesser punishment. Murder was ruled out and manslaughter usually does carry a much lower sentence so 5 years isn't that little. A life was lost because of his actions but they decided he didn't intend to kill him so I guess that's the line they drew. I was in court recently (jury service) and a guy got 5 years for theft from a house. Sure he was a massive repeat offender but how can it be the same sentence as this? Either one was too big or the other too short..... Terrible mother. 28... having a relationship with a 16 year old who has those issues.... seems mad. Then to leave him with her son.. it's just very sad.
Thats the problem with the current court system, it is based on how the judge is feeling. One can judge can be a hard line judge whilst another could be rather more lenient. There needs to be stricter punishments as a standard. This scumbag is getting off lightly he should have got a life sentence.
Can you explain it then? Because although Dom may have worded it wrongly, if the punishment and tariff was strictly regimented, then there'd be no need for judges to pass sentence, but just an administrator to search through the relevant spreadsheet and inform the guilty party of their sentence based on the rules.
Well to a certain extent it's already like that. Many offences have sentencing guidelines which judges can only depart from in exceptional cases. The appeal courts have also built up a solid amount of case law which provides guidance to judges. So really it's not to do with how a judge is feeling but what he or she understands the law to indicate the sentence should be. But to apply the law you have to have sat through the evidence and heard the mitigation put forward. If you're curious/bored here's where you can find the guidelines: http://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.gov.uk/guidelines/guidelines-to-download.htm The Magistrates' (lower court) guidelines leave very little room for manoeuvre. 5 years for manslaughter is about par. No doubt any increase on that for this scumbag was cancelled out by his age at the time of the offence. Wrong in some cases but that's what Parliament legislated for. And that's the key - if you think a sentence is too long it's often the fault of the law, not the judge.
I'm not going to lie, I was on my phone and just put it in a way that would have been convenient. What I meant was that it depends on what punishment the judge deems applicable. There is a set precedent but in some cases a perverse outcome will be made public and all of a sudden there is an outrage of the court system is too lenient etc. The sentence in this case does seem lenient but as you said he committed the crime when he was a minor and was judged by the age in which he committed the crime. Minor's always tend to get a lesser sentence as you have said, which in some cases it should apply but for a case like this a longer sentence should have been implemented. The court system isn't in a great situation lately as sentences are almost immediately halved on entrance into jail. If this lad behaves himself he could be let out within little over a year through parole. Bring back hard labour in the prisons, it will cut out the boredom factor and will put the prisoners to some use. The ECHR can go do one, bloody prisoners rights is a load of rubbish any how.
