2021-22 Squad

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  1. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    20th.
     
  2. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Squad Player

    Our current squad would struggle with a lack of goals and couldn’t rely on our watertight defence at a higher level. We could possibly squeak 17th but could easily go down.

    Fortunately we are allowed to sign new/better players before we have to play next season.
     
  3. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Definitely 20th, although Norwich went up on roughly the same amount of points as this season, didn’t strengthen, got 21 points, went down, didn’t really lose many players, went up and we still beat them twice.

    So by means of some very rudimentary extrapolation our team would probably be good for at least 20 points in the PL as it stands, so realistically we need to find the players to get us another 17+ points.
     
  4. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    If we get 40m as is being suggested, then no. We can replace him for less than half that.
     
  5. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Interestingly people compare Tevez & Cucho quite a bit, the former wasn't that prolific in his younger days either. If Cucho can have a Tevez type trajectory I for one will be delighted.
     
  6. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Squad Player

    It would be more fair to say ‘we could’ rather than ‘we can’.

    Sarr is without doubt our most dangerous forward player, to lose him and gamble on a cheaper replacement being as good would be risky indeed.
     
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  7. Dr. Roland

    Dr. Roland Academy Graduate

    I’ll just do the first team for now.

    GK - Would love someone better but not a priority.

    LB - First team player desperately needed. Preferably good enough to make Masina a cameo next season. Young, fine but not sure he’s the answer.

    RB - Someone to challenge Femenia would be good. A more defensive option.

    CB - Sierralta has had one of the best seasons at Watford I’ve ever seen a center back have. Is he prem quality? Probably and obviously worth the risk. Like the idea mentioned earlier if someone with more experience alongside him.

    CM - Yes we’ll need one more. Preferably better than what we’ve got. Might just get away with another midfielder at Chabs or Hughes level.

    Striker - This has been done to death. Will be almost impossible to find but essential. If not 2.

    Wing - Maybe controversially but between Pedro, Zinc, maybe Cucho, Sarr and Sema, could be enough to get us through. Only if we really do invest in a successful striker.
     
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  8. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    Last time we were promoted, there were eight signings that had regular places in the first team - Nyom, Britos, Prodl, Jurado, Behrami, Ake (loan), Holebas and Capoue.

    A few regulars from the promotion team did not get a sniff and were loaned out, like Vydra, Angella and Pudil. Others like Tozser and Munari left altogether.

    Last time it was a significant churn, as the new money roared in. This time i expect there will be just tweaks. It’s the strikers that will need the greatest bit of work to upgrade within our limited budget..
     
  9. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Knowing Gino he'll buy another AG to replace him!
     
  10. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    The thing is you’ve got the Premier league money, which is a bit of a myth as to keep getting it you need to spend it, but then you’ve also got Gino’s player trading model which in reality requires us to be a PL club for it to be able to work. So although I think we won’t be going mad spending money, Gino will want to keep us up compared to the alternative of doing a Norwich and just pocketing the cash and seeing what happens/being relegated. Without PL status there is no shop window to maximise profits on players that do come good.
     
  11. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    News from The Athletic. Munoz is staying as first team coach.

    Here's a run down on what they are saying will happen.

    GK
    Bachmann will continue to be number one. Foster will stay for one more season. Rob Elliot will be given an extended contract and Dahlberg will be sent out on loan and will return at the end of next season when Foster retires/leaves.

    Defense
    No plans to add the the CB. RB will remain also. Lazaar will leave however and Ashley Young is likely to be brought in.

    Midfield
    Sanchez will not be retained. Hughes and Chalobah will be offered new contracts and its likely at least one more midfielder will be signed to add to the competition.

    Forwards
    Big hope that Sarr will stay but there is strong interest in him. Watford hold all the cards, so it's thought he will stay for another season.

    It's hoped Cucho will be joining but it may be the end of the road for Success and Perica. Talk of Vydra coming back and he's in the final year of his contract at Burnley.

    Geri and Bobby P will not be coming back, but we may sign De Paul from Udinese. Jayden Braaf, who is on loan from Man City with an option to buy at Udinese is also considered to be an option for Watford next season.
     
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  12. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Hello Championship 2022/23 season
     
  13. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Squad Player

    As upgrades go, replacing Lazaar with Ashley Young must be up there.
     
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  14. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Not a chance in hell we get De Paul, he will go to a far bigger club.
     
  15. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Leventhal was suggesting that if no club stumps up the required offer, he could join us “to showcase his talents” for a season. Would make sense in some ways but I suspect a UCL club will be willing to meet the £50m asking price. He’s that good.
     
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  16. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Somebody will pick him up unfortunately. Christ imagine if we did get him.
     
  17. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    De Paul and Sarr plus Vydra and Cucho would be very good. Obviously defensively we need to add as well.
     
  18. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    We need to add quality rather than numbers in the window I'd say.

    Squad is strong at Champ level, but needs more guile and skill on the ball.

    Would rather like to see more of Pedro playing deeper behind another no. 9.

    He has the skills if it ever fits the formation.

    We definitely need to upgrade Sema whether with pace or skill. Perhaps they will try Pedro or Zinc to do so.

    Zinc might be better suited to the Prem than the Champ once he's settled in fully.
     
  19. ForzaWatford

    ForzaWatford Squad Player

    Leventhal, as much as I like him, clearly has very little actual information so I wouldn't take this article as gospel.
     
  20. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    I'd be ecstatic with this. The tease of hearing De Paul and Braaf being mentioned is effin unbearable.
     
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  21. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Don't ruin my De Paul dream already :p
     
  22. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    We’re more likely to get Ru Paul
     
  23. Dr. Roland

    Dr. Roland Academy Graduate

    The only problem is that it’s likely to be much, much worse than Levanthal’s musings. This is a man who is paid to get or keep subscribers happy.

    If they do all Levanthal suggests they are considering and wake up the fact that we’ll need a quality CB. Then it won’t have been a bad window imo.
     
  24. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    The Pozzo group need to keep us in the Prem, if achieving that requires getting De Paul for a season, we will get De Paul for a season.
     
  25. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    That's the spirit.
     
  26. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Who needs a defence when we've got de Paul and a new striker!
     
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  27. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Adlene Guedioura?
     
  28. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Interesting you mention him. Was thinking that he provided more goal threat than our current midfield!
     
  29. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Doesn't a metric of "prevented goals per 90" essentially just favour keepers who sit behind fairly porous back lines? If you're not facing many shots your score there is going to be lower by because the opposition has fewer opportunities to score so you have fewer opportunities to save a goalbound shot. By way of contrast, if you're a good keeper behind a leakier back line you'll have more opportunities to save a goalbound shot every 90 minutes.
     
  30. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    Good to see our new no.9 Lester Piggot scoring again tonight.
     
  31. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    Yep coming to Watford would be like hitting Rock Bottom for De Paul
     
  32. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Also missed a pen.
     
  33. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    How depressing.

    Gray and Deeney will expect to start.

    No central defensive reinforcements unless it’s an experienced back-up or a young player we can fail develop.

    Not a chance we end up De Paul.

    Down we go.
     
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  34. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Braaf has only ever played 115 minutes of first team football. It's reassuring that the Athletic piece claims we're looking to bring in a new left-winger, but I'd be surprised if this guy would join us and make the required impact.
     
  35. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    I don’t think so because, as I understand it, it compares each keeper’s performance against some modelled ‘average keeper.’ In that sense prevented goals per 90 is a bit of a misnomer, really it’s prevented goals above/below the average keeper per 90. I suppose that still gives keepers behind the most porous defences the chance to excel in the metric, but they could equally perform much worse in the metric as a result.
     

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