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Discussion in 'Politics 2.0' started by Moose, Sep 29, 2021.

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Who do you want as the next Tory party Leader

  1. Rishi Sunak

    7 vote(s)
    63.6%
  2. Lizz Truss

    4 vote(s)
    36.4%
  1. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    I'm with Miriam on this.

    It's a bit cruel to educate us really. Then we know what we're missing out on.

    And exams are no good to us anyway. Bosses hate you being qualified. They don't like smarty types in their employ. I don't really understand why. Perhaps it's because they're tougher to exploit.

    I've been ordered twice at different job centres and different stages of life to remove my OU degree and other qualifications off my CV and to downplay past job titles. I've then had to upload my new dumbed down CV to their website within 5 days or get sanctioned. You think I'm exaggerating, but on both occasions I was told plainly that British employers do NOT like qualified people.
     
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  2. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    "Wrong degrees" is maybe the incorrect term and a degree education is an education in life as well as academia. It's traditional to pour scorn on the likes of degrees in subjects such as media studies or which have a lower employment record than say medicine. But there's a lot of education out there that it hugely expensive for little gain where 3 or 4 years in the industry would have got you further up the ladder and with financial benefit.

    I think I probably would have benefited better a work progression going on to professional qualifications rather than an academic qualification, although I studied engineering which is about as practical as it gets. What I'm saying is a degree isn't the be all and end all, isn't the best choice for everyone.
     
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  3. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Jobcentre plus is a special type of place which exists to keep the people employed at jobcentre plus and provide them with some social interaction whilst being able to tick a few boxes for the government.
    Having had 2 periods of unemployment and also periods where I've tried to use them to employ people I certainly wouldn't bother with them in the future.
     
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  4. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    It’s hard to see how a degree in engineering can be a wrong step for anyone who can do it, given the theoretical and practical knowledge it gives. Teaching people to good at something, in my view, helps them be good at other things, even if not strictly related. But no, it won’t be right for everyone and that’s never been anyone’s intention.

    Someone asked if James Cleverly’s degree in Hospitality was the sort of thing Sunak and Co mean, but clearly it’s done him ok and hospitality is a massive industry. Why not develop those people? It certainly didn’t make him ‘woke’ that’s for sure.

    The funny thing is, apart from huge Uni debt, much has improved in the educational offer in the last 20-30 years, for example degree apprenticeships, which are highly practical, but also offer personal development, at a much lower cost to the student.
     
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  5. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    I like this quote from Miriam's excellent piece:


    "University ‘elite overproduction’ has shifted the UK to the left."

    She's spot on. The more educated people are, the less gullible they are and the less likely they are to vote Tory.
     
  6. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    If they're going to scrap any degree, would suggest PPE at Oxbridge is the place to start.
     
  7. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Cates' drivel c&p'ed for research purposes:

    Incidently, I saw that the hateful moron has brought up 'CRT'. I finally found someone who's studied it - my daughter as one of her core subjects for the 1st year in a Philosophy degree at Andy Pandy's...
     
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  8. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    I totally agree, having said this on the previous page.
     
  9. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Missed that as I was somewhat skimming. There was me, patting myself on the back, thinking I'd had an original thought.
     
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  10. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    None of us have original thoughts.
     
  11. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    I thought that as well.
     
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  12. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    If the suggestion is that this only turns out Tory politicians then I can tell you from personal experience that that is not true.
     
  13. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    There is no PPE degree offered at Cambridge, so scrapping it at Oxford is a great idea.
     
  14. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Which is what they teach you if you read PPE at Oxford!
     
  15. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Damn! Rumbled.
     
  16. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Inflation still rising at a hefty rate but dropping from its peak. Fuel price reductions year on year due to crude oil price drops working their way through slowly is the cause. But of course Shapps is out there on BBC Breakfast claiming ill-gotten credit:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-66231510
    It seems what he's saying is that the measures the government announced a week and a half ago to deal with price fixing at petrol stations have driven down inflation immediately. Is anyone stupid enough to believe that?
     
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  17. Susan Hall is Tory candidate for London Mayor.

    Susan ******* Hall.

    The Hyacinth Bucket of British politics.
     
  18. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    I fear many people are.
     
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  19. If this pillock becomes London's Mayor, I'm off.
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  20. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Not going to happen.
     
  21. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Is that her pictured celebrating at a funeral somewhere?
     
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  22. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Squad Player

    To be fair, I’ve seen dafter faces pulled by a London Mayor
     
  23. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    HSPS?
     
  24. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Reminds me of Marjorie from Fat Fighters.

    Could be good for food banks though.

    "Dust!"
     
  25. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Surely there's a better photo of her than that! I've never actually seen her, so as far as I know that could be quite a flattering shot
     
  26. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Only 10 years old and not exactly the same constituent elements?
     
  27. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    What the actual ****. Khan is as unpopular as he has ever been, field a decent opposition for god's sake, otherwise we'll have to put up with more moneygrabbing.
     
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  28. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Apparently the Tories have formally complained to the Standard about the front page. Because no news is bad news, evidently.
     
  29. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Is he? What about the millions of Londoners who are fed-up with breathing shyte?
     
  30. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    The Tories rush to produce an ‘emergency law’ according to the Mail, to prevent banks closing accounts because they don’t like a customer’s views. Such is the power of the media to elevate a nothing story (posh bank declines Farage’s future business).

    Once again Levelling Up revealed to be the last thing on the Tory minds, even though the Mail pretends it could be your bank account. You just know this law will come with (if they can write it in an intelligible way) lots of exceptions for views Tories don’t agree with. Free speech, my arse.
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  31. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Great advertising for Coutts - not that they need it. But an utter waste of ink and air time
     
  32. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Worth noting that Coutts decision, though it referred to his views, was made on the financial viability of his account once his mortgage had ended. He was offered an ordinary Nat West account, but being such a man of the people and anti-globalist warrior, he refused it, demanding to bank with the elite.

    There is eff all squared to see here and I predict the ‘emergency law’ comes to nothing.
     
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  33. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Whatever you think about Farage, he is very good at playing the crowd.

    He has managed to turn a failed attempt to keep an account with a bank that requires customers to be multimillionaire into a fight of the little man against the establishment. And the government obviously think that this is resonating enough with the man on the street that they are prepared to go into bat for Farage.

    It really does underline how these grifters are able to manipulate the ordinary people of this country into supporting the real "elite" while poor people continue to endure the worst of the cost of living crisis.
     
  34. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    I think it's marvellous news! Well done the crusading Daily Mail and Herr Farage!

    The Cuba Solidarity Campaign and anyone related to it are denied bank accounts in any of the regular banks because of the damn sanctions and fear of US mega fines imposed for 'trading with the enemy'.

    A new law to prevent that will do very nicely indeed.
     
  35. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Will you be voting today?

    Vote Chuffington-Buffington (Con). A steady hand on the tiller!
     
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