Liverpool 2-0 Watford Fc - 02/04/2022

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by wfcSinatra, Mar 18, 2022.

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How many will we concede?

  1. more than 5

    21 vote(s)
    24.4%
  2. 5

    18 vote(s)
    20.9%
  3. 4

    18 vote(s)
    20.9%
  4. 3

    9 vote(s)
    10.5%
  5. 2

    8 vote(s)
    9.3%
  6. 1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Score Draw

    1 vote(s)
    1.2%
  8. We win????

    11 vote(s)
    12.8%
  1. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Talking to yourself again "moog"?
     
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  2. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Good to see some Kuca fans online on a Saturday afternoon.

    They're being kind!
     
  3. westbridgfordhornet

    westbridgfordhornet First Year Pro

    It might have been easier if you'd just copied and pasted my entry just above yours...oh sorry you obviously did TVOR!!;)
     
  4. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    You're missing the fact that Kucka always gives Roy the runaround in training...
     
  5. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    You really can't beat a bit of experience. Just hope we can hold onto him next season.
     
  6. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    No, I’m not
     
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  7. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Sorry. I mean. No, I'm not.
     
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  8. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Glad about that because wasn’t sure what you added to this place otherwise
     
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  9. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    I look at us as differing parts of the same equation. I believe the facts staring me in the face, you don’t. Both adding next to nothing overall. I’m fine with that, you are not. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
     
  10. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I can honestly say I have not seen your post even now, as I just came on and wrote what I thought. However, if our thoughts were the same all i can say is great minds think alike :D
     
  11. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    I can imagine Roy's despair TBF
    He has come in and said you no longer have to score 4 or 5 to win a game .
    All you have to do is score 1 , maybe 2 , to get a point .
    And today , we had , at least 2 , more than decent chances to score
     
  12. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    If he didn't bring at least King and Dennis on, there would have been plenty of moaning.
     
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  13. Dorset-Orn

    Dorset-Orn First Year Pro

    The day we get out of the these "3 year blues" will be when a manager finally Comes in and unlocks the pandora's box question of "why do our players naturally have a condition where they can play well (but lose) to a few very good sides, but a week later get completely outplayed by any bottom 6 team?".
    We NEVER follow up a performance like today against a fellow struggler, so if we do beat Leeds next week (we won't) maybe Roy has unlocked something (I doubt it)...
     
  14. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    This is a good question/paradox
     
  15. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Yeah but it's not a binary thing is it? There's timing, the role he asks them to play, the people they replace and throw Cleveley into the mix and you have a complete shitstorm of a triple sub that made us even blunter than before they came on.

    Quite how king scored a hat trick for Norway in the week when he did zero in 18 minutes today baffles me.
     
  16. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Helps to play against Armenia who are down to 10 men…
     
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  17. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    After 20 mins too.
     
  18. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Having seen the penalty again on MOTD I have to say that is absolutely laughable, nobody bats an eyelid! Almost feels like someone said “we need to secure this win for Liverpool”. Proper joke.
     
  19. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Well yes, this is exactly how it works. We’d have probably lost anyway, so today it didn’t cost us in all reality. My big concern is when we play EPL darlings Leeds and Everton. We can play well, deserve the win but it’s taken away because the EPL want their bigger clubs to remain in the league. It’s good for their brand to have Leeds and Everton part of it. It’s not good having clubs like Watford or Burnley. We bring nothing to the party. Unfortunately that’s the way it is.
     
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  20. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    I refuse to believe a conspiracy of such could exist for so long without being exposed, given the behemoth that is the Premier League and the hundreds of millions involved.

    I am however starting to think a subconscious bias exists.
     
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  21. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    The PL are also responsible for getting us into £250m worth of debt.
     
  22. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Bias has always been a thing, and one good thing about VAR is that it takes away that element of doubt that referees used to hide behind. Now it’s out in the open and clear. There are far too many incidents which bizarrely go in favour of the bigger clubs.

    Clearly I don’t believe referees sit in meetings deciding how next to stitch up Watford, but they are far too ready to give soft penalties for trivialities when it comes to the big boys.

    There is a definitive push to engineer results or sway them in favour of the established clubs. Be it deliberate or subconscious, it does exist. Football fans see it every week, yet deny their own eyes because for some reason they don’t want it to exist. That bury your head in the sand attitude does football a disservice.
     
  23. CarlosKickaballs

    CarlosKickaballs Forum Picarso

    One day when the club folds from all this debt, a lender will see their written off money was spent on a mechano temporary stand and a 5 year contract for Dan Gosling.
     
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  24. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Did King actually touch the ball when he came on? I don’t remember it happening.
     
  25. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Indeed. Fortunately we will probably be 2 or 3 down going into the last quarter so there’ll be no need for the prem league to play their VAR card in those games.
     
  26. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Oh look. We lost.

    We go again.

    More of the same next week.

    Yay. Football.
     
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  27. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    First goal was a good goal, Foster and Kiko could have done better but was a fantastic ball in from the recently fit again Alexander-Arnold. The penalty was daft but almost definitely wouldn't have been given the other way round, look at Kabs disallowed goal at Leeds.

    Created some chances and looked better but feels too little too late. Kamara is class. Enjoy him whilst we can.
     
  28. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    It was a penalty..

    The issue is those incidents get missed or not given as Alan Shearer said a lot which is the frustration for many .
     
  29. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    The issue for me is both players were tussling, whilst kucka did have his arms around Jota. Jota also was pulling Kucka, so who gets the foul?
     
  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Fair point - probably why those incidents are ignored most of the time as usually it’s 50/50.
     
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  31. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Alexander Arnold wasnt playing, that ball was from Gomez.
     
  32. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Ah my mistake, thanks Cyan!
     
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  33. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    India v The Lions 3-3, England lose 2-3 on shuffles (penalties).

    Th 'Wood v Woking, 0-1 the 'Wood lose their accolade of only team in the top 5 divisions of the English game to be unbeaten at home.

    Bit of a recurring theme on Saturday...

    ...and the Woking goal was a penalty after a, frankly ludicrous, challenge in the box AND Woking were down to 10 players.
     
  34. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Yes, it was their backup centre back playing at right back who put the ball in.
     
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  35. Where's Wally

    Where's Wally Academy Graduate

    Kamara was immense, he had Salah in his pocket to the extent that Klopp had to sub him off.

    Foster needed to channel his inner Pickford and should have gone for that ball early and wiped out Jota had he he been brave enough to go for it too.

    Their second was just odd, out of the blue, no one on the pitch or in the stands called it. Has there been a VAR decision like that before? I guess it makes no odds now but still strange.

    why we didn’t target a ring rusty Gomez after his early yellow seemed odd too.
     

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