Never good playing someone like City in your first game. Playing us will be a game they will hope for a point we will have to be clever to break them down. Back to today, seeing on Sky its still all about Liverpool and Klopp moaning. Makes it even more sweeter if Britos was slightly offside.
He was ******* abysmal. He was worse than Hitler. He's a ******* travesty of a player and shouldn't be in our squad as a back up, let alone a starter. Needs to ship off before window closes or I'm gonna selotape my season ticket to a breezeblock and hurl it at him from the lower g t
Smoking, shouting, de-motivating and trying to have fights or demolish the dug outs. Nothing football related.
Genuinely beyond mind boggling how anyone can have watched today's game and come out with the opinion that Amrabat was anything but thoroughly awful. It just has to be blind defiance at this point.
It's all quite odd old Wally. I remember his Napoli team looking good against Man City up an early Champ League game. Really well drilled and good to watch.
I was heartened by that performance. So important psychologically to get the late equaliser rather than conceding it. I'd change Cleverly for Pereya (hope he's alright) as the no 10 with Hughes as bench back up. And swap Amrabat for Success so we have front line of: Success Pereya Richarlison Gray/Deeney/Ok
As many others have said today, really good performance today in particular the first half, and was very enjoyable unlike a lot of last season. Genuinely think if Pererya had been on the pitch for another 20 minutes and we'd introduced Silva's sub when he wanted, we'd have won that, he was different gravy for me. The game changed when he came off. Lost my **** with Amrabat for the first time properly today. If you're **** and putting in 100% effort then fair enough can't ask for a whole lot more. If you whinge every time one of your ******* awful crosses don't make someone, or hit the first man and actually have the audacity to blame someone else for it, you're a nob. If Doucoure and Chabs are doing that against top 4 side, loving the idea of what they could do to the other bottom 12. Very positive signs this season.
Decided to push the boat out and treat Mr HH (Liverpool fan) and myself to a hospitality package for his birthday. Our seats were right next to the Directors Box. Celebrity spots: Damian Lewis in the front row; Moeen Ali behind him. Both clearly Liverpool fans (Booooo). Interestingly, the Watford contingent of the Directors Box watched the replay of the penalty decision intently on their screens at the front of the box and, from their reaction, seemed to think it was the correct decision. Agree with most of the summaries on here although never like the vitriol sometimes aimed at players who haven't had a good game (in this case, Amrabat). Good atmosphere and entertaining game, which is something I haven't felt able to say about a Watford match for a long time. Liverpool fans only found their voices when they took the lead. To those slating Gomes, it's worth remembering that alongside his blunders he made two class saves that kept us in the game when we were 3-2 down. As Squibba said, twas ever thus with Gomes. One last point: to those tempted, a hospitality package at The View gets you great (padded) seats but is massively overpriced and the food is not great. Plus, for that money, how can they be incapable of offering a "special coffee" (ie latte!).
Another player that's getting pelters tonight is Amrabat. He clearly has limitations, but I like him as a player. He has a lot of energy and works very hard for the team. He never hides and always wants the ball. I like his personality and he does do some things very well, like shielding the ball. Where he does fall down is his delivery. It's often too deliberate. I think he has to cross the ball in blindly occasionally, just to speed things up. Personally I feel there's not enough quality to warrant his place in the side right now, but I certainly would like to keep him in the squad. This time last year he was our best player. The way he started last season he was terrific. Maybe he's just lost his way a little, but sometimes good coaching can iron out problems. I would trust Silva to spot issues and get him to work on these areas of his game. If we sign a good right winger, then that will give him the impetus to improve. Amrabat of 12 months ago, would certainly be an asset to the team.
Yeah, Chalobah hasn't had enough credit as Doucoure has taken, rightly a lot of praise, but at times Nath looked ******* dreamy. When these two get fully going they are gonna be a rolls Royce pairing. The car I mean, not the **** disco band
No disrespect, but that is utter baloney. Attacks die when Amrabat gets the ball, his shielding usuall results in him, slowing the play down, giving away a free kick for shirt pulling or losing possession. When he gets the ball he's too ponderous, he can't read the game and his decision making is pretty poor. He doesn't have a football brain. The Premier League is a step too high for him.
Kaboul is one of the fastest players in the squad. Check Antonios goal against us last season at home. He matches him for pace for a whole half length of pitch .
I disagree.....but wouldn't call your opinion baloney. I can see his limitations, but his attitude is one of his great strengths. There was one break away from a corner for Liverpool and he was the only player to track back and stop the attack. He put in a good cross for Richalison in the final minute. I know only 3 assists and no goals is not good enough, this is why I said he we need someone else on the right. All I'm saying is he's more than good enough for the squad and just needs to work on the speed of his game. I think coaching will iron this out. Do you remember how good he was 12 months ago? MotM on a few occasions. I remember he was terrific against Chelsea at home and got a standing ovation when he came off. Fans are sometimes too impatient. He needs time away from the first team, but I've seen good performances from him in the past and there's no reason he cannot get back to that level again.
He looked in such anguish when Silva was basically forcing him to go back on. I really worry about his desire to play the game at the moment, because he can be a real asset for us.
Apparently Hitler was a half decent full back in the inter war period , lower Austrian leagues . That was until an incorrect sending off by a referee called Rosenbaum caused a simmering resentment in Adolf to boil over into an irrational hatred . The rest is history .
He's coming up 31. No level of coaching is going to make a 31 year old winger, who's footballing ability is naturally painfully limited, into a good standard Premier League winger.
Getting the gist of what you are saying, but finding it difficult to fathom that a Watford fan through the Pozzo era would seriously still be thinking that a head coach at the club would be the one to sell a player. If a bonehead was going to sell Ducoure, surely that bonehead could only have been Gino? I thought Walter's issue with Ducoure was that he was failing to adapt to the PL and his system, and needed time, and most on this forum seemed to be in accordance until he started putting in the performances.
Amrabat did well in the first half of last season. Sorry if that is boring for you, but you are insisting in being boring by repeating your own, perfectly valid, but even more repetetive point of view. He doesn't need to learn, he needs to refind that form, and if he can't, he needs to head on out.
Well Silva sees something in him to play him ahead of other options. When we get the upgrade next week or the week after then he most likely be drop to the bench or out of the squad. I think we should respect Silva's decisions, he seems to know what he's doing and from pre-season and today you can see he is keen on particular shapes and tactics and we need to trust his judgement.
Do you not think Gino would have asked Walter if he wanted to keep him then? Doucoure, after a slightly shakey first game when he was clearly played out of position, was clearly good enough thereafter - and more, showing potential to be a great. If forum members thought otherwise, then they have been proved wrong since, havn't they!
I would have expected Gino to know, possibly even more than yourself and the others who followed his Granada career, that only a bonhead would think of selling him.
There isn't any other options at this moment in time (despite the fact I'd happily rather have Pantillimon out there), so he's not really playing him ahead of anyone. You could argue Richarlison and Success perhaps but the former is clearly going to be eased in and the latter is far more suited to playing left or central. I think and hope he is literally only playing by default until someone of at least acceptable quality can be brought in.
He's not been the same since his ankle injury. He's now fully fit and had a solid preseason in his legs, yet he's regressed. I'll concede he tries hard and has a good attitude but that's not enough, we can't be sentimental about it, he brings nothing to the table. Don't get me wrong, I like him but it's what's best for team and he's too limited to be given time.
I think wingers in general are the most frustrating breed of footballer. They get the ball, you sit up in your seat expecting some magical run or dribble or piece of trickery, usually only for their cross into the penalty area to fail to beat the first defender. Or they don't even bother to cross, but slow up the play and then pass it backwards. Grrr. I've never liked being too down on any of our players, but I've felt for a long time that we can and should be doing better than Amrabat, and I'm sure we are trying to. He just seems to fall into that 'anticlimax' category, a bit like I often felt Anya used to as well. Good intentions but not usually the end product to go with it.
Well Gino didn't sell him, did he. But Walter criticised him publicly, played him out of position and then dropped him after a few games in which he played really well. He was a bonehead - pure and simple.
The problem is, is that people have made up their mind so no matter what he does now will never be good enough. I think everybody agrees that his final ball could be better but in a game like this his work rate was probably chosen over a luxury player. I think the same could be said about Cleverley today in that his high work rate was preferred in the middle to maybe Hughes.
Amrabat looked ok-ish early part of last season because his energy, work rate and combative style suit a wing back; it's a compromise role and it's okay if they aren't the absolute best offensively. Anya was a half decent wing back. A winger isn't a compromise position, they need great decision making, be creative and a great cross. Amrabat has none of those. He also doesn't think or play quickly he slows everything down. We could play until hell freezes over and he'll never look decent in a 4231. He's out of his depth he doesn't have the talent for the role.
