Watford Fc 2-1 Norwich City - 07/07/2020

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Smudger, Jul 4, 2020.

  1. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Well he doesn't seem to be very good at his job :D
     
  2. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Didn't watch Norwich vs Brighton match, read reports or anythings. But just saw Farkes interview after the match saying that his team is not relegated ,but realistically it was their last chance of getting into the mix. Once the manager has given up hope on survival surely it's only a good thing.
    Apparently a few took to just sitting on the grass sulking after the match too. Another plus.
    Like doing a little stat work. Norwich have only scored once in the first half all season. We've kept 5 clean out of 9 at home under Pearson. This and that they've downed tools publicly is giving me a glimmer.
    I will still back Norwich to make sure we get the result.
     
  3. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    They’ll play without pressure having accepted their fate.

    Honestly really expect us to lose this.
     
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  4. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Can they make those monitoring vests dish out electric shocks?
     
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  5. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Deeney has turned from talisman to a hex. He was never blessed with pace which is fine but he was good with smart movement and some agility to compensate. He's stopped moving and lost the latter as well, whilst over relying on his raw strength and decent aireal ability which leaves us too one dimensional. Look at the difference Welbeck made against Chelsea; he got a good shot off on target and nearly set up Hughes. We missed that dynamism and movement to worry defenders. I do think Deeney should be moved on this year as he's becoming too big for the club in his head whilst his performances have simply been shocking for the most part barring 4 or 5 games.

    Our defence hasn't had a major investment since 2016, barring Femenia, Masina and Dawson during 2017, 18 and 19 respectively but those don't address the glaring issues at CB. All 3 are find as supplements but not as the big arrivals. Cathcart has fallen off a cliff this Season after being Mr Reliable for so long whilst Dawson to his credit has grown during the break whilst Kabasele remains our only CB with good acceleration if error prone.

    Our central midfield carried our poor defence and attack last year papering the cracks we are seeing this year and contributed massively to our usual post Christmas slump as they are cannot cover it again. Capoue who looked decent to good and has outshone Doucoure regularly since 2018 has fallen off a cliff since the restart hasn't helped.

    I think financially we will be fine should we go down and our owners are no fools nor here to make a quick buck with a lot of infrastructure work done and a lot of excellent future talent finding. (We can sell Sarr, Doucoure, Capoue, Deulofeu, Deeney, Janmaat and a few others should we need to and still have a decent Championship squad on paper) The issue is there has been too much neglect with the current squad thinking they could squeeze out another year on the cheap and it's finally caught up with us.

    I would want to see a more dynamic team vs Norwich to stretch their weak defence so we stand a chance:

    Foster
    Femenia - Dawson - Kabasele - Masina
    Chalobah - Hughes
    Sarr - Doucoure - Pedro
    Welbeck

    If we start with Deeney again I won't watch the game as we will have already decided the outcome.
     
  6. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

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  7. carboy98

    carboy98 Reservist

    Going to be absolute carnage on here when Pearson selects Deeney up top. Chaos. Can't wait.
     
  8. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

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  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Agreed. Start with Welbeck and then TD comes on as his injury replacement after 21 minutes.
     
  10. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    I honest can't see Nate or Pedro starting. Even though I like the look of selections.
    I wouldn't even mind Holebas starting on the left. He can deliver a good cross on occasions and will certainly throw his body on the line.
     
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  11. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    It was clear last game Pearson's plan was to sit back and try and grab a 0-0. If he does the same against Norwich and starts Deeney he can do one.
     
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  12. reids

    reids First Team

    Norwich have looked there for the taking on the counter in recent weeks.

    442 with Gray/Welbeck up front. I'd actually start Pedro on the left as well for the pace. Doucs/Hughes in CM.
     
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  13. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    This. Big Nige seems wedded to his one supposed tactical innovation of playing Doucoure in what is effectively an unintelligent number 10 role, but has he actually been that much more effective or improved our or his own performances whilst there?

    Initially, it might have given us a bit of an energy boost, although it's hard to say given the whole team had picked up having been freed from Quique's shackles, but he's always looked most effective going both ways from central midfield, including when he came on the other day, if I'm not mistaken.

    Add that to the fact that he can't shoot for **** at this point, and he's certainly not picking/spraying passes from the position, and what is the argument against putting him back where he belongs alongside Hughes or Capoue?
     
  14. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    We've played like that and look where it got us.....
     
  15. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    There’s a difference between playing without pressure, and playing without commitment,
     
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  16. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    Foster
    Femenia - Kabasele - Cathcart - Masina
    Chalobah - Hughes
    Sarr - Doucoure - Welbeck
    Deeney Gray

    My choice. I'd be confident that we would boss the game with this team. Doucoure wouldn't have to bomb forward so much with the other 4 in attack and on song, he can help out Hughes and Chalobah. I would give Deeney another chance because with Gray and Welbeck and Sarr around him he has no excuses not to lay it off to someone. Convert the chances we would get by around the 70 mins subs time because all the recognised strikers are starting.

    Alas, I am not expecting Pearson to pick that team. (I've not seen enough of Pedro so wouldn't be prepared to roll that dice in such an important game. I've left Capoo out to start as we don't need to give away silly fouls around our box. And I just don't like Dawson at CB).
     
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  17. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    I don’t think 12 players is enough still. May as well roll the dice, put 14 out there.
     
  18. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    blimey. good spot. need a rethink.
     
  19. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    Foster
    Femenia - Kabasele - Cathcart - Masina
    Chalobah - Doucoure - Hughes
    Sarr - Gray - Welbeck

    After confidently saying we can boss the game with 12 players earlier... :D

    I'd have to go with a 4-3-3 and without Deeney with the players we have. Try to move the ball quicker when we get it on the break, create some chances, and get some goals.

    In reality, expect Deeney to start in a 4-2-3-1.
     
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  20. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Current odds of a Norwich win greater than 4/1.

    the bookies must be as thick as mince
     
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  21. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Is Pedro quick? genuine question as haven't seen much of him
     
  22. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I'm being v lazy now but who has the best odds on a Norwich win please?
     
  23. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I can confirm he's quicker than Deeney but not as quick as Sarr. Hope this helps.
     
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  24. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    A bit of team news, which is good for us. Todd Cantwell is definitely out for tomorrow after tweaking a hamstring.
     
  25. RookeryLad

    RookeryLad Reservist

    Will be amazing! I am penning a few posts now in anticipation.
     
  26. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I only ever bet on the Grand National and even I'm tempted by this.
     
  27. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Quite like the idea of 4-3-3 but would prefer Welbeck in the middle in which case I would like to see Pedro or Pussetto instead of Gray.
    Must win game is over used in my opinion but it is very apt for this one. Villa or Bournemouth are going to get a surprise win somewhere so we must win this plus it puts Villa and Bournemouth under pressure to get something when they play later in the week against Man Utd and Spurs
     
  28. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

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  29. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Thank you. So he's somewhere between a very large rock and an Olympic sprinter. Certainly narrowed it down!
     
  30. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

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  31. carboy98

    carboy98 Reservist

    I think this is the key point - if we can't win this game, we should not be in the league. No ifs, no buts.
     
  32. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Was that when he was sulking on the grass after the match.
     
  33. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    They were just showing their disappointment and that they care, I think.

    It compares with our players having a joke with each other as they walk off following yet another loss.
     
  34. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    For some reason he hasn't been starting for them recently. Agreed though it's good news for us he is a very good player, I have been really impressed with him this Season, I think Norwich will have a few offers for him in the summer.

    On a side note I think they will probably lose quite a few player, I know what they have done regarding transfers is sensible but they have never really gave themselves a chance of staying up, if I was a Norwich City player I would probably be questioning the Clubs ambition and aspirations.
     
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  35. Lose this and we deserve all that’s coming
     

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