Watford 0-0 Hull Saturday 20th April 2024

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by BeersThen, Apr 14, 2024.

  1. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    This bottom half vs top half thing is totally meaningless. What DOES matter is that we score more goals than we concede this season. We are currently +1. We have 2 games to preserve that record.
     
  2. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    There is something in this as he can score and can look like he can score when he doesn't .
    Bayo , IMV, looks like a better player technically, but is hopeless in front of goal .
     
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  3. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Without a doubt one of our most talented players, and still young with time to develop and improve his game. Just a shame he will be first out the door in May to ease the burden of not getting promoted. Whoever he does end up playing for, I think he has a very promising career in front of him. Pedro did not set the division alight every game he played last season, but he had moments of real quality that bigger clubs saw and we rightly cashed in. Same will happen with Asprilla, as much as I would love to keep him for at least one more season.
     
  4. MarlonsCellMate

    MarlonsCellMate Reservist

    I'd like to see Rajovic on the pitch with this current version of Lewis that swings decent balls into the box.
     
  5. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    He is scruffy but effective, in a generation of players and fans where being easy on the eye but ineffective is arguably more popular.

    Give me scruffy wing play and a cross from Sema on the head of Rajovic over Kone slowing play down before playing in Dennis to take 8 touches and ruin a chance.
     
  6. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Agreed. Throw in a couple of decent crosses, like those Sema crosses vs Rotherham, and he will get on the end of them.
     
  7. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    Next season , for sure , when Lewis is elsewhere, we shall hear all sorts of nonsense about how we wish we had a decent LB .
     
  8. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Great point. Clevs has got us hard to beat. That gives you the chance of being in the promotion shake up.
     
  9. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    That's what we have been saying this season as well.

    Lewis is an awful excuse for a footballer.
     
  10. Steel City Gold

    Steel City Gold Reservist

    Whilst I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious here, I really hope this happens.

    I was lucky enough to have been there during the years that RJ went from being a comical excuse for a striker to a club legend.
     
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  11. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Yes, whether it's for a shot or a cross they all tend to want one touch too many.

    It's bizarre how all of our players seem so averse to whipping in a cross first time; on pretty much every occasion today our players opted to take a touch to stop the ball before then crossing it, usually by which point they'd been closed down and so hit the first man.
     
  12. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Fail to beat Sunderland next week and it will be a minimum 8 months between home league wins.
     
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  13. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    The odd thing is Bayo used to be completely hopeless technically, but still used to always find himself in good goalscoring positions, and even if he'd miss one good chance because he got in good areas he'd tend to get another one later one which he'd then score from.

    But since the new year he's not even been getting good scoring chances to miss any more. Albeit, his play outside the box has actually not been as bad as it used to and his pressing is very good. He's gone from being a poacher to a defensive forward.
     
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  14. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    We'll see next season .
     
  15. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    Agree with this .
    But we need a goalscorer
     
  16. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    If we have a left back who is crap next season it won’t make Lewis any better, it’ll just mean we’ve replaced a crap left back with a crap left back. Do you think he’s good?
     
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  17. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Nobody (apart from people like Jumbolina and Moog who'll say it's because they want to accelerate the departure of the Pozzos) wants our players to fail, that's just silly talk, if Rajovic scores the winning goal in next season's playoff final off his arse, he'll be a hero forever. I just haven't seen anything to suggest his early flurry of goals is anything more than a purple patch, he's scored twice in the league in 2024, and the goals he's scored haven't come from smart finishes or smart bits of movement, it's been when the ball has been put on a plate for him and he couldn't fail to score. Thought his general play was improved today, but he never looked like scoring and was nowhere near the play on a few occasions when the ball came in
     
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  18. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Our Lewis 'replacement' has already arrived, his name is Ken Sema, as long as he doesn't spend too long on the treatment table next season, I'm pretty sure he'll make us forget Lewis ever existed
     
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  19. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    But you could say that about Dennis and Bayo as well. None of them look like scoring - but out of Dennis, Bayo and Rajovic, only one of them has a respectable goal return this season.

    Dennis was lauded by many as being “the best player in the league” - he’s more talented than Rajovic, but many of his performances have been worse.

    Just seems strange to me that a loan player that cares only about himself seems to get fanboy treatment, yet a player who the club own, is our top scorer and clearly works his nuts off gets pelters every week.
     
  20. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Scott Fitzgerald had a respectable goalscoring record once upon a time, until the goals the dried up. Sometime Rajovic does get pelters, but you have to admit at times it's fully deserved, but today I've seen plenty of people laud Rajovic for his performance, he did a job, and I don't think I've seen anyone praise Dennis since the Leeds game. I just think it was an odd piece of business, quite a large sum for where we are at the minute on a punt; if he can play like he did today he'll look like a decent plan B option, but there's a reason why two managers this season have preferred to play Bayo and Dennis despite their own lack of goals
     
  21. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    I didn't actually watch the game and I think we need to give him a lot longer to adjust, I was just joshing.
     
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  22. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Considering we were already on the verge of safety when he came in, I don't think results have been the main thing (for what it's worth, Birmingham was a bad performance, everything else has been at least decent, sometimes very good). We had burned plenty of opportunities against **** teams before he came in, so I'm finding draws against decent teams an odd reason to criticise Clev for
     
  23. V Crabro

    V Crabro Reservist

    Serious........I was also "lucky" enough to see the majority of RJs appearances for the Hornets as we moved up through the divisions. "Luther's black, Ross is white, together they are dynamite"
     
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  24. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    You must be watching a different game to me because I see an attacking threat from our left hand side.
    If we had a 15 to 20 goal striker who could put away chances then any negative observations about any player elsewhere on the pitch would be meaningless
     
  25. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    So are we creating plenty of chances which the strikers are missing or are we not creating chances so the strikers have limited chances to score ?
     
  26. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    On yesterday's showing their were plenty of decent crosses/opportunities to score .
    17 shots at goal 0 goals .
     
  27. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    So to summarise, our strikers are crap. :)
     
  28. 3000

    3000 Reservist

    We look much more assured in defence under clevs with the silly mistake almost vanishing over night. However we are still just as toothless up front, we never look like we are actually going to execute our counter attacks. It gets to the final 3rd and everyone bottles it and plays a 5 yard pass or takes another touch instead of going for it.

    I like Clevs but it's not a dead cert that he should get the job next season.
     
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  29. luther1

    luther1 Academy Graduate

    Certainly won't be any worse off than this season then. Lewis is certainly not a decent LB
     
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  30. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    Yes . But it is the left backs fault . Or the GK .
     
  31. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    Last 8 home games : 118 shots at goal / 6 goals .
    There is your problem
    We could have the best LB money can buy but if you are relying on Worldies from your CBs to score then nothing will change .
     
  32. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Because it’s been very dull and at points difficult to watch. If Ismael had gotten these results people would be complaining. Since it’s Our Tom, it’s reframed.

    Nice bloke but not ready for EFL management.
     
  33. Lubaduck

    Lubaduck First Year Pro

    In his defence , and I am not saying that he should get the job, it is not his team.
    There will be comings and goings regardless of who is in the hot seat
     
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  34. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    The quality of crossing was appalling until sema came on
     
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  35. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    The most difficult to watch were Birmingham (the worst performance very lucky to get 3 points) and Preston (who came for a point and got it), everything else has been decent enough to watch. We've got 3 strikers who haven't been performing (Dennis started off the Cleverley era well, but has been off it since Leeds), it'll just take one reliable goalscorer to turn those draws into wins and make the football seem more exciting, because honestly, yesterday was a different game to Brum and Preston
     

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