Stoke City 1-0 Watford Fc - 19/08/2023

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Hornets81, Aug 13, 2023.

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Stoke vs Watford

Poll closed Aug 19, 2023.
  1. Stoke Win

    21 vote(s)
    27.3%
  2. Watford Win

    28 vote(s)
    36.4%
  3. 0-0 Draw

    10 vote(s)
    13.0%
  4. Score Draw

    18 vote(s)
    23.4%
  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Yes, that’s fine and thanks for taking the time explaining your points. To me, you can always look back over a season and think you’ve been cheated, had good or bad luck in certain games. Overall, bar a couple of suspicious seasons since I’ve supported the club, when officials have been out to get us, I think you end up where you roughly deserve to be. Basically if you get relegated you certainly don’t deserve to win the league that season (as an extreme example). Most recently our first EPL relegation season was full of bad luck and dodgy refereeing. The opposite was true of the following season, full of good luck and favourable refereeing when we got promoted.
     
  2. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    From memory you live in Barca so genuine question....did you watch the first two games? Only ask as it's been like a breath of fresh air compared to almost any match post the FA Cup Final. Win, lose or draw we seem to have a game plan back. Agree that we need a no 9 and Bachmann needs to learn his role and very quickly but I'm quietly impressed......but my aspirations are obv lower than yours for this season
     
  3. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I don't live in Barcelona. I used to commute for business and have my roots there, but I've been living in the UK for a number of years now. I don't get to see Barca as often as I did, but still have a ST in my name but I loan it to someone else these days. I go to all Watford's home matches and usually 3 or 4 away per season.

    I've enjoyed the way we've played, but I can see the limitations and mentally have expanded that across the season. With a non-sweeper keeper and a striker lacking composure then have some fundamental flaws which will to lead to many Plymouth type frustrations this season. A bit like West Brom when Ismael was in charge for them. They played some really effective football, creating lots of chances, but they didn't have a striker. So, results were a lot poorer than they should have been and he got the sack. Watford are following the exact same path.

    Gino looks at results in blocks of 10. If we are significantly below the points line he expects, the head coach is dismissed. That will continue to happen, don't fool yourself it won't. So, unless we get the players we desperately need, it's all going to go south pretty quickly, regardless of how well we're playing. IMO of course.
     
  4. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Stoke’s ground is usually very cold and often windy and it’s a pain to park near as I recall. Probably good that you’re going at this time of year. I was there when Helguson scored to keep us up, then for a horrible Pulis/Boothroyd 0-0 a few years later and lastly for Deeney’s first PL goal in a 2-0 win. I’m not bothering this time.
     
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  5. reids

    reids First Team

    Agree, so surely you can have bad luck in the first couple of games of the season?
     
  6. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Yes, of course you can. I just don't think we were unlucky not to beat Plymouth, I thought it was a fair result. We could have won, but could have lost in equal measures.

    Missing a 1 v 1 is not bad luck, it's bad technique and composure from a player who has shown that trait almost every time he's been in that position. It's not bad luck your non-sweeper gives the ball away. It's bad recruitment that Ismael doesn't have the correct type of player for his style, or you could ever say it's bad Ismael cannot readjust his ideals to suit the keeper we have. Either way it's not bad luck.
     
  7. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Trouble with all these 'shots on target' stats is brilliant blocks by defenders preventing the shot reaching the keeper seem not to be classified as a 'shot on target' whilst a scuffed 30-yard effort that just about bobbles through that far is.
     
  8. reids

    reids First Team

    That's why xG is useful!
     
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  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    What's xG ?
     
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  10. YellowHornets

    YellowHornets Reservist

    Really looking forward to this game, it’s going to be my third visit to the Britannia Stadium. The first time was my very first away game when I was about 9 or 10 & we won 1-0 back in 05, I remember it very fondly! My second away game was Stoke again the following season when we won 3-0. My third away game was the Play Off final & we know what the score was there. Hoping my luck continues at the Britannia. Stoke 1 - 2 Watford (Louza, Healy) - hopefully someone will find their shooting boots & Healy is actually given a chance (not just a run out at Stevenage).
     
  11. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I think it means, ‘exterminate Gino’. Could be wrong though.
     
  12. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Yes.
    Originated from the daleks within the fan base I think.
     
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  13. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I'd be happy with 0 points but >1.2 xg plus 15 successful dribbles.
     
  14. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Well said, we all know the actual score is an irrelevance.
     
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  15. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I think it's a very big bra size
     
  16. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    And they are the moderates.
     
  17. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Love for Gino?
     
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  18. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    I think we'll lose this heavily. 3-0.
     
  19. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Team news

    Ince part of squad (finally)
    Sierralta needs a late check
    Ngakia not guaranteed to be back
    No Lewis - maybe next week, maybe week after
    Being careful with Healeys involvement still
     
  20. Malco_Falco

    Malco_Falco Academy Graduate

    I’m predicting 1-0. Bayo will miss at least three sitters before we concede when Bachmann is dispossessed fannying around in injury time
     
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  21. davisp2

    davisp2 Reservist

    This does look like a big win for the bed wetters. I’m going 2-0 Stoke
     
  22. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Uncle Ron currently in meltdown (again). He needs a hobby.
     
  23. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    God help us if we're expecting 90 mins from Livermore. Prefer Kayembe if we have to replace Sierralta.

    Hoping Lewis isn't another Hause.
     
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  24. ProfessorAbdi

    ProfessorAbdi First Year Pro

    When will Ismael get the sack after Pozzo sends him into the first half of the season with Bayo and Healey as his options up front? Bayo can't score if he's required to think and Healey is taking ages to get over his latest knee injury (shock!).
     
  25. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    In fairness, Hause arrived here off the back of recent surgery!
     
  26. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Did Lewis get injured DURING his medical ?
     
  27. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    It’s the 3rd match of a 46 match season!
     
  28. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    You're correct. Plenty of time for the injuries to really kick in!
     
  29. Cassetti's Beard.

    Cassetti's Beard. Academy Graduate

    With the injury news I'll have to rein in my prediction a bit.

    Stoke 1-4 Watford.

    Uncle Ron ***** the bed.
     
  30. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    surely in todays would we could go contactless or at a push use BACS?
     
  31. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Squad Player

    Going to this for some reason, first away game in a few years.

    I am mindblown that a train from Watford to Stoke takes only 1 hour 40 minutes. Say what you like about the Victorians but they knew how to build trains.
     
  32. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    That’s less than the length of a match these days!
     
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  33. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    That is the problem we knew would happen with VI's more intense gameplan. Hopefully Sierralta is alright to play, and regardless I would probably start Healy over Bayo tomorrow. Give us something different and he may even surprise us and do well. Lewis still not being ready is sad news, I was hoping we would of seen him by now. I know @hornetboy1 has been pretty negative in his posts about this season overall but I have to admit he has a fair point in our squad depth. Game three and are without two or three players. I just hope Ince puts in a good show.
     
  34. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    Inch will score as he's playing against a former team.

    He will then become confused after too much industrial floor cleaner in his Gatorade at half time,run to the away fans and attack them with his boots and shin pads.

    Last seen heading to an institution near Burton on Trent.
     
  35. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Never got train to Stoke away before .

    What’s best way getting to ground from town , is there a happy hopper type job or normal bus?
     

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