Pozzowolf Day 2

Discussion in 'Werewolf: The forum game' started by Otter, Nov 14, 2023.

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Day 2 sacrifice

Poll closed Nov 14, 2023.

  1. Cassettis Beard

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  2. Cthulhu

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  3. Daft Row

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  4. domthehornet

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  5. HappyHornet24

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  6. HarrowOrn

    7 vote(s)
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  7. Hornets81

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  8. nornironhorn

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  9. SkylaRose

    6 vote(s)
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  10. steve harrow

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  11. TomWatfordWFC

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  12. tonycotonstache

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  13. watford willy

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  14. wfcMoog

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  1. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Message 1 - Good
    Message 2 - Good
    Message 3 - Good

    Summary - Bad
     
    tonycotonstache, Nov 14, 2023
    #36
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  2. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I think its their sign-off code.

    It makes sense for us as individuals to try to figure it out (in case one message style tries to mimic the other), but it does not make sense for us to discuss it with each other.
     
    nornironhorn, Nov 14, 2023
    #37
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  3. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    This is a crazy quiet one so far isn't it?
     
    tonycotonstache, Nov 14, 2023
    #38
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  4. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Agree no discussion but yesterday there was a well known acronym so wasn't sure if just me not knowing this one.

    Never sure how helpful these have actually been to team good...
     
    steve harrow, Nov 14, 2023
    #39
  5. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Anonymous message #2 - Received 12:49

    Good afternoon fellow Watfordites! It is your wise old seer here again. I viewed Cthulhu - they are GOOD. Bummer.
    Yesterday I viewed steve harrow, who was GOOD.

    41/4/U
     
    Otter, Nov 14, 2023
    #40
  6. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    I believe it just helps group the messages together when they are similar in style.
     
    domthehornet, Nov 14, 2023
    #41
  7. Hornets81

    Hornets81 Academy Graduate

    So someone has viewed both the new guys in the first two days? That seems a strange decision no?
     
    Hornets81, Nov 14, 2023
    #42
  8. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    It does a bit.
     
    domthehornet, Nov 14, 2023
    #43
  9. watford willy

    watford willy Academy Graduate

    Would it be likely for new players to be given roles in the first place. Not 100% sure how they are allocated so that might not be how it works.
     
    watford willy, Nov 14, 2023
    #44
  10. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    When I do games, I randomise the result using a number generator so anyone could be anyone.
     
    domthehornet, Nov 14, 2023
    #45
  11. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    42/4/O 41/4/U has named
    Steve Harrow and Cthulhu as Good.
    Appears a simple and informative style to me

    TTFN PINACS has named
    Hornet81 and watford willy as Good
    Slightly more complicated style
    ? over picking 2 newbies to view
     
    Cthulhu, Nov 14, 2023
    #46
  12. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Not unheard of for newbies to get roles. It adds a random element. It may even be random picks.
     
    Cthulhu, Nov 14, 2023
    #47
  13. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Nothing concrete to go on from the messages and I wouldn’t really want to sacrifice any of the named players as two of them have been viewed as good and the other two are unknown but unlikely to be Gino. So today’s result is going to be random again. The only thing we know is that at least two, and maybe three, players with roles forgot to play their part overnight. If we can find one of them, we are more likely to find an evil player (although the risk is we sacrifice our guardian but, if they’re going to forget to protect us anyway, maybe it won’t be any great loss…).
     
    HappyHornet24, Nov 14, 2023
    #48
  14. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    I think both messages are from experienced players. A newbie wouldn't put a code in the bottom like this I don't think, unless they've gone through all the previous games.

    I believe the 42/4/O 41/4/U messages are the seer. Its natural to pick experienced players to view first as if they're evil they are more dangerous. Wolfie is picking newbie players to potentially cause them to panic a little bit.

    I agree with HappyHornet regarding the ones who weren't active, even if that causes me to go.
     
    Harrow Orn, Nov 14, 2023
    #49
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  15. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    4 goods isn't great either way so we should look at those not posting late yesterday or so far today as a starting point?
     
    tonycotonstache, Nov 14, 2023
    #50
  16. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    I agree to an extent however we have had two messages each day so far fairly early. You would want to look at the non posters for the missing roles but we still have an active evil floating about.
     
    domthehornet, Nov 14, 2023
    #51
  17. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Slightly off track but I do feel that's our clubs real transfer policy sometimes!
     
    tonycotonstache, Nov 14, 2023
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  18. Cassetti's Beard.

    Cassetti's Beard. Academy Graduate

    Can't remember the last time we had the first four messages as good
     
    Cassetti's Beard., Nov 14, 2023
    #53
  19. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    There is some good reasoning in there harrow.
     
    Cthulhu, Nov 14, 2023
    #54
  20. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    At the risk of falling into a trap, this isn't terrible logic. We do I think though only have an indication of one of those who didn't post yesterday and MIGHT be more likely have some role?
     
    steve harrow, Nov 14, 2023
    #55
  21. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    For what it's worth I think seer and Pozzo are experienced players. Given posting style. It may be copied from old games though.
     
    Cthulhu, Nov 14, 2023
    #56
  22. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Sorry I've been quiet, had about three Zoom calls back-to-back with Musk's "Star Ship" Engineers.
     
    SkylaRose, Nov 14, 2023
    #57
  23. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    DAY 1:

    Anonymous Message #1 - Received 9:59

    Good morning fellow Watfordites! It is your wise old seer here. This morning I viewed steve harrow - he is GOOD. Sorry I couldn't have been of more use. See you on the training pitches.

    42/4/O

    Anonymous Message #2 - Received 10:31

    'Tis the wise seer here. First viewing on day 1 was for Hornets81 - He is Good.

    I will be looking to help in whatever way I can, so sorry I couldn't get an Evil one on the lottery of day 1. Tomorrow is another day!

    TTFN


    DAY 2:

    Anonymous message #1 - Received 11:27

    Good morning all, and a collective drop to the bench for all our Louza-esque lethargy yesterday!!!!!

    Its your wise seer again. I looked at those that were relatively inactive to try and root out a lazy bad one or forgetful newbie. I therefore viewed watford willy - He is Good.

    I'm still on the case for a bad one so have faith!

    PINACS

    Anonymous message #2 - Received 12:49

    Good afternoon fellow Watfordites! It is your wise old seer here again. I viewed Cthulhu - they are GOOD. Bummer.
    Yesterday I viewed steve harrow, who was GOOD.

    41/4/U
     
    steve harrow, Nov 14, 2023
    #58
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  24. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I too am inclined to believe the latter message is the actual seer, but I do find it strange that a wolf would go before the seer with their message.

    It would leave them very open to being named by the seer and not being able to 'throw people off the scent' with a follow-up message.
     
    nornironhorn, Nov 14, 2023
    #59
  25. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    To me the first message comes from someone less experienced, or perhaps Gino. It doesn't mention who was viewed yesterday, and that lack of information is a slight hindrance for team good.
     
    TomWatfordFC, Nov 14, 2023
    #60
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  26. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Agreed Tom, that and they didn't opt to change the style of the message after the first message yesterday.
     
    domthehornet, Nov 14, 2023
    #61
  27. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I think I'm inclined to agree with everyone that we should lynch someone we expect to have been inactive last night.

    There was at least one wolf inactive, and the guardian too. I'd say it is more than likely there were two wolves inactive last night.
     
    nornironhorn, Nov 14, 2023
    #62
  28. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I'm on a call whilst reading these, so I may have missed something.

    Why would they have changed the style of the message?
     
    nornironhorn, Nov 14, 2023
    #63
  29. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Pretty obvious which pair up but nothing I can see to guide us - so far. Would love to say the messages naming me are from the Seer but actually Gino will know precious little at this time.
    Me - named good yesterday and today.
    Hornet81 - named good yesterday.
    Watford willy - named good today.
    Cthulhu - named good today.

    Otherwise... on my radar:
    Skyla - personally I'm still unsettled by her comments yesterday. Enthusiastic or evil?
    Harrow Orn - didn't post yesterday and said online from 9pm. Inactivity might more likely suggest villager but equally we did have inactive roles not messaging Otter last night. Daft or devil?
     
    steve harrow, Nov 14, 2023
    #64
  30. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    So that the messages are different enough to distinguish, a seer posting a message with a similar style to an evil message is more often than not hindering the game.

    As in their first message of the game.
     
    domthehornet, Nov 14, 2023
    #65
  31. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Yep, I'm erring on the side of the Steve and Cthulhu viewer as being the seer, but I'm especially cautious. We lost a game a while ago specifically because everyone was so sure that one set was from the seer, but it was from the alpha. I think we were super unlucky though, in that the Seer had viewed the Tinker on day one or something.
    So anyway, that doesn't tell us anything useful to decide tonight's vote. I'm sticking with HH24.
     
    wfcmoog, Nov 14, 2023
    #66
  32. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    You're defo in the spotlight.
     
    wfcmoog, Nov 14, 2023
    #67
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  33. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    This sounds like BS = lynch!
     
    wfcmoog, Nov 14, 2023
    #68
  34. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    As there is a traitor in the game, is it safe to assume they would have voted for Miked knowing that Mike was good?
     
    domthehornet, Nov 14, 2023
    #69
  35. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    There's a good chance they would have but a number of reasonable scenarios where they wouldn't have.

    eg. voted late and saw Miked was already doomed - no need to tie yourself to a dead man who was about to be revealed as good
    If Skyla is also good (doubtful) then also could have voted for her, knowing that either one of them being lynched was good for team Pozzo.
     
    wfcmoog, Nov 14, 2023
    #70
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