[NOT HAPPENING] Paco Alcácer

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Burnsy, Jul 27, 2018.

  1. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    Pay the man Edmund and damn his impudence
     
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  2. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Probably not.

    But when you factor in that we would supposedly pay £19m for Origi and we got £10m-ish for Amrabat and Zarate, that’s over £27m and I know who I’d rather have. And it doesn’t even touch what we made on Richarlison.
     
  3. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Leicester have already got more strikers than we have CMs.

    Vardy, Ulloa, Okazaki, Ineacho, Slimani, Moussa
     
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  4. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Stick him in the boot of Ginos Skoda and get him over here pronto.
     
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  5. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK Reservist

    It's the loved ones we need to focus on.
     
  6. wingco

    wingco Reservist

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  7. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

  8. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    With an obligation to buy him at the end of the deal? Would probably help balance our books over the course of the next couple of years.
     
  9. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    On another note, are we becoming Barca's feeder team?
     
  10. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Interesting to see what happens if we are in the championship by then !
     
  11. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    You mean the other way round ?
     
  12. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    There would probably be a clause saying upon relegation the deal is cancelled. Or something of that ilk.
     
  13. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Hmm your right. We missed a trick but not sending them Hoban on loan. He needs games.
     
  14. cfdr0ftaW

    cfdr0ftaW Academy Graduate

    So it's effectively a permanent deal, with us paying in instalments (loan fees) before paying Barca the rest of what is owed in 2020. Interesting way of doing the deal but I'm glad Gino and co have persisted, if the story is true.
     
  15. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Perhaps it's because by that point we expect to have gotten an extra windfall as part of the Richie deal from Everton having qualified for the Champion's League...

    Lol, on a more serious note, it's good that we seem to be still in the hunt for another striker.
     
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  16. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Nice, this will either come off or smoke out Liverpool into dropping their price for Origi.

    Would be happy with either. Alcacer has the higher pedigree but not proven in the Prem, Origi is younger and prem experienced.
     
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  17. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Alcacer is 2 years older, and still fairly young for a striker. I'd take Alcacer over Origi any day.
     
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  18. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Both would be nice ...
     
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  19. onion8837

    onion8837 Reservist

    And he has cojones
     
  20. wingco

    wingco Reservist

    We seemingly have a decent relationship with Barca that will work in our favour, and obviously Deulofeu being here might persuade him to join.

    I wonder as well if we might be using their interest in Hernandez to make the deal happen, say giving them first refusal?
     
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  21. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Alcacér is a much better player than Origi.

    I really hope this is true. Easily the best of the strikers we have been linked with so far this summer.
     
  22. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Yeah, prb agree with that. Although Origi is far better in the air which as the lone striker is important.

    How many times have we seen crosses come in and only a short Gray or a static Deeney in the middle to meet the cross.
     
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  23. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    You seen much of him play ?
     
  24. miserableoldgit

    miserableoldgit Reservist

    could easily be - with Rich / Okaka gone / going it seems possible - Gerard D does not offset - he was here last year and in reality replaces Niang/Carillo
     
  25. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Well as good as you can look alongside Neymar, Messi and Suarez, he always looked to hold his own whilst obviously not being at their standard - but he didn’t look out of place. Can play through the middle but also has the ability to play on the right or left of a 3 man attack. Was very good at Valencia and has a decent strike rate for Spain in their stronger period of form. Can’t really find any fans with a bad word to say about him from any of his clubs online...

    Origi however, we’d be paying for the promise that he had when arriving at Liverpool. And even then he was voted into Ligue 1’s worst team of the season. I saw him live last season when I watched Hertha play Wolfsburg in Berlin and he was comfortably the worst player on the pitch. He strikes me as all the worst bits of Welbeck with not quite so many good bits. I don’t think he’s unable to make a name for himself somehere but at £19m, I’d rather go for someone less high-risk. But at his best, I can also see how he’s better than what we currently have. I just don’t think he’s capable of being at his best consistently or even half the time and he’d be a cause of massive frustration.
     
  26. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    100%. There is no doubt in my mind that Cucho would be part of any negotiation in both this deal and perhaps the Deulofeu deal too. First refusal sounds about right.

    Would be happy with Alcacer, especially on a loan deal. International striker, plays for one of the biggest clubs in the world, far better than Deeney, Gray and Okaka. What’s not to like?
     
  27. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    HB1 and ITKJim must be itching to comment on this

    Sound promising, never ******* heard of him until now but I think we should sign him no matter what.
     
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  28. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    So would I until Alpaca rejects us and then I will claim I always preferred Bee Bop!
     
  29. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Very encouraging reading. I hope we pull this off - god knows we need an upgrade in attack!

    Re. Origi, I think Alcacer is better but they’re both a level above what we have. Asking for both is greedy but in an ideal world we’d sell Okaka and one of Troy/Gray and sign both Alcacer and Origi.
     
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  30. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Gino trying to make up for the Rodwell debacle.
     
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  31. cfdr0ftaW

    cfdr0ftaW Academy Graduate

    I wonder if the idea could be to play Alcacer wide left? Can see him struggling a little with the lone striker role in the Prem.
     
  32. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Just thinking that we will no longer have to worry about how good he is on a wet, November Tuesday in Stoke... not until next season when we get relegated.
     
  33. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Ive just done a comparison between Alcacers and Origis Youtube videos to see who is the best player.

    Alcacers backing track is more DnB based whereas Origis is hardcore cheesy techno which I despise . On that evidence I would suggest to Gino that Alcacer is the better deal.
     
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  34. Ray Knight

    Ray Knight First Year Pro

    Ideally Alacer left, Origi middle and Del Boy right. One of Hughes, Pererya behind. Back up Success, Deeney/ Gray and Sema. Sounds good to me.
     
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  35. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    For someone who has left he certainly does a lot of lurking on here! Last active 5 minutes ago...
     
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