[SIGNED loan] Matheus Martins

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Markoa$, Aug 12, 2022.

  1. reids

    reids First Team

    Will suit VIs system much more than Wilders
     
  2. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    He gets the requisite 45 mins like any other signing.
    No special allowances for the fact that he was 20 or so, and from Brazil, at the end of a full season.
    That would be a favouritism.
     
  3. VR94

    VR94 Academy Graduate

    He also featured most when we were particularly shafted by injuries in January and February.
     
  4. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Where do you seen him featuring? And what shape do you think VI will play? Was very much 3-5-2 for Barnsley/WBA but played with a back 4 at Besiktas
     
  5. reids

    reids First Team

    I might be wrong here but I thought it was 3-4-3 he primarily used (at LASK, Barnsley and WBA anyway)? I have nothing to back this up other than a hunch but I reckon he'll play a 3-4-3 with Martins used as one of the wingers.
     
  6. LF24

    LF24 Academy Graduate

    If we are to sign Cho - you'd think a sort of 3-4-1-2 would be the best fit for the squad (bar Martins) with Cho & Healy up front and Asprilla or Ince in the 10 role. Could also work as a 3-4-3 defensively with one drifting wide in the press, but if we do play 3-4-3 with one striker and two wingers, then I guess Cho & Healey would be fighting for the same spot.
     
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  7. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    This was the line up Barnsley used in their playoff semi final which I think is pretty representative (they had another CB who rotated with Sibbick through the season).

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    I’m less familiar with WBA/LASK
    I think that’s one option. But I also think we might be better suited to a back 4 with a midfield diamond, especially given our midfielders. Something like this:

    GK
    Ferreira/Andrews Porteous New Styles
    DM
    Kone Louza
    Asprilla/Ince
    Healey Big 9 (Cho?)

    That would enable a lot of energy/pressing from the midfield four.
     
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  8. westbridgfordhornet

    westbridgfordhornet First Year Pro

    You mean Wilder actually had a....system? Obviously apart from slagging off the players, the Board, previous coaches/managers and, on rare occasions, even himself? ;)
     
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  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Wilder had a system that would have guaranteed win after win after win, but apparently the players just ignored his wise words and did their own thing, completely unscripted, annoyingly costing us loads of points.
    He told us this himself, so it must be true.
     
  10. westbridgfordhornet

    westbridgfordhornet First Year Pro

    Apologies, I was wholly unaware. That puts a very fresh perspective on things. I'm big enough to admit that Wilder obviously had a compelling argument. I'm in!
     
  11. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Ironic that his style was defined as "total control" when he apparently couldn't even control his own squad.
     
  12. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    You’ve got this wrong. It was Edwards’ fault.
     
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  13. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    That's some weak arse looking midfield.
     
  14. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Quite - physically weak as we found out last season .
     
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  15. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

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  16. RMT79

    RMT79 First Year Pro

    Hopefully he shows us more than last season now he has had time to settle in the UK
     
  17. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I'm sure he can come good, he is only 20 and coming from another continent after all, but in a strange way it's a measure of how **** the environment is at the club that we are being so understanding of someone who contributed little last season
     
  18. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Thought he did ok when played but wasn’t much !
     
  19. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Played well at the start but never looked like he knew what he was doing! Then completely disappeared when Wilder came in
     
  20. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    This is good news.

    For a start he's under 30 :cool:
     
  21. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Our whole team disappeared as a functioning unit as soon as the World Cup ended. Ironic how we went into the break on fairly good form PPG wise then totally fell to bits after it. Wilder was just work experience and the team were just taking the piss each week. Shows how low we fell last season.
     
  22. Stuey

    Stuey Reservist

    I liked Martins, far from the finished article but he's got something about him and is progressive with the ball.
     
  23. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    You can see why fans had had enough last season
     
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  24. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    As long as he's here through choice, rather than being press-ganged into it, then he's not the worst signing. Low expectation might help and hopefully this year less U20 call ups to disrupt his time with us.
     
  25. WatfordDH

    WatfordDH Academy Graduate

    Before he even joined us last year I remember him being known for his ability to just keep running and tracking back. Definitely something VI can work with
     
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  26. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    Gino will definitely be picking him each week.
     
  27. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    I wasn't overly wowed with him last season, but at the same time did think there's definitely something there to work with.

    Hopefully a longer stay in the UK and a full pre-season will help him.
     
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  28. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Surprised he has come back, saw nothing from him last season that made him look like a half decent option. Interested to see if VI can get him playing.
     
  29. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    He did a lot of good in his 45 min debut v Blackpool but never hit the same height again last Season. We need to see more of this player than the one who looked bewildered.

     
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  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Unlike last season?

    Well after the first few weeks .
    Has Ismael had a say at all ?
     
  31. HornetMan

    HornetMan Academy Graduate

    When he played he at least tried to make things happen. Always looked to play the ball forwards/run forwards with it which is more than can be said for some of our players

    Am looking forward to seeing what he can do with a full pre season and a more settled outlook
     
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  32. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    New season, new manager, new playing style of team, new criteria for getting in it etc. New hope!
     
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  33. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

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  34. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Pleased with this, has had 6 months to acclimatise and grow like JP. I think he can be a force for us this season if used correctly.
     
  35. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Yup lol. And then quickly expired by mid August each time!
     

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