I find posts like this very strange. I am also a long term ST holder since 1972. But in those times we’ve never had a debt the size of the current one, players throughout the entire squad that are so demotivated, owners who are so unpredictable and a strategy that has not worked for 5 years but no signs of any new thinking nobody on here knows whether there will be a sell off of the 2-3 players worth any money, retain the rest of the lazy sods and a repeat of the strategy which may well lead us into a relegation battle and one step closer to serious financial issues or whether the Pozzos have 12 players up their sleeve that they will ship in who will create a strong squad relationship and challenge next season I would suggest the former is far more likely
Been a season ticket holder for around 20 years now I've seen teams on the pitch with far worse ability and owners off the pitch indulge in far more surface level lunacy. However, I honestly can't remember a time when a combination of everything about the club was so hopelessly awful at the same time. I sincerely believe we'll be battling relegation next season at this rate
I know that the footy industry is like no other, but I can't imagine there are crowds of potential new owners beating a path to our door waving their chequebooks. Pozzo is going nowhere
Yes, who would spend hundreds of millions not only to buy the club but also clear the debts for a middling sized Championship club who's upper limit is to be a mid-table Premier League club for a few years?
I'm not sure if I am just a neurodivergent moron but I absolutely find us losing in such a pathetic manner funny. I hate the pozzos/dinglerry. The more we lose in such a pathetic manner, the closer we come to those c**NTS sell up. So long may continue our run of 3 wins in 17 games etc...
I'm just numb to it all now, the board & the players don't care so what's the point? I only live 30 minutes away from Hull & I couldn't be bothered to go watch us yesterday. Fair play to the fans that went, but these players don't deserve the support.
Similar, but I have to say the promotion chasing teams in 1988/89 and 2000/2001 under achieved to a greater degree than this lot. Both those seasons were, (for me), ultimately more disappointing than this.
Think the frustration is we were a mid table PL club and now it looks like we might be a mid table Championship side with an uncertain future . The total under performance and poor results don’t help the mood and fans getting the silent treatment from the powers that be . Sure if we were still in contention for promotion as was the club expectation . things wouldn’t so toxic but we haven’t looked like one all season.
If we were just slightly less *****, we'd have had to face to ignominy of getting battered in the playoffs, so at least we've avoided that.
Why must it drop? It hasn't so far? It didn't when they sacked Edwards just a few months ago, or when they went into the Jan window and signed another load of unsuitable players. Why would we assume that suddenly the leopard will change his spots?
Trouble is, the following season was not marked by a controlled, planned, consistent approach; we got promoted after patenting our '3 or 4 head coaches a season' approach and just struck lucky. Do you think Joka would have survived had we lost at Flam rather than batter them? It could'v been HC #5 even then! The only way we'll see a real change is if GP admits to himself (and thereby everyone else) his approach is to blame for the current level of disaster. He's a macho Italian micro-manager, so I'm not holding my breath on that one. I used to report to our EU MD who was exactly the same & much of what went well was when he was out of the loop. We had our best 2 years' results after he was promoted to the global board and had to move over to USA and relinquish most of his input into Europe. I really do not believe GP is psychologically capable of change.
Any such mea culpa would mean absolutely zilch without a total change of approach from him & that just will not happen.
The Kirby relegation season was really, really depressing and we came 23rd in a 22-team division, but we were not saddled with ridiculous amounts of debt. The miasma of nothingness of most of the '90s at least saw the players TRY....mediocre-to-crap as many of them were. The last 2 seasons have displayed a level of internal disunity I did not believe in my worst nightmares would be true of WFC.
I start going in 1990 and until GT came back it was awful, but we had a team that put a shift in and usually gave 100%. We were crap, but I'd always defend us as a club. Now I'm just embarrassed.
Even then we had a goalscorer and were at least competitive even if technically we weren’t that good .
To be honest this isn't really accurate. There was a few people clapping. Although the players kind of come over together and the likes of Ryan Andrews and Asprilla applauded the fans. And to be fair I applauded a select few of the younger lads before giving the senior lads some stick. I would say 90% of the fans were telling the players to "F off" and making W***ker signs. Kamara come over at the end on his own and got plenty of abuse of fans telling him to "F off out of the club". To be honest I am not sure the players looked like they knew what to do.
Good to hear, it's what they deserve. What were they expecting after yet another piss weak performance?
It looked like they didn't want to come over and probably felt they had to. While Hull players and coaching staff were celebrating with their fans, ours were mingled around the halfway line before making their way over reluctantly.
Next time I hope he brings a wheelbarrow with him and can hand out free shirts to everyone. Might be better at that than actually playing football the useless turd.
The fact that a matchday thread is only 5 pages long tells you everything you need to know about the interest from the fans at the moment.
Everyone has reached peak apathy This season needs erasing from history. It needs a big fark off concrete case chucked over it like Chernobyl, left as a reminder to future Watford scouts (and owner) on how not to assemble a football team
