Blackburn Rovers 2-0 Watford Fc - 13/09/2022

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Stuey, Sep 12, 2022.

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Prediction

  1. Watford Win

    8 vote(s)
    15.1%
  2. Watford Loss

    23 vote(s)
    43.4%
  3. Entertaining score draw

    11 vote(s)
    20.8%
  4. Bore Draw

    5 vote(s)
    9.4%
  5. Micah Hyde

    6 vote(s)
    11.3%
  1. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    We woz robbed yet again :mad:
     
  2. bromfir

    bromfir Academy Graduate

     
  3. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    After a lot of soul searching I found a replay of our first half showing last night. It's pretty short and sweet but it gets to the point.

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  4. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Even if Kabs goal would of stood - we deserved nothing from that game. It was by far our worst performance under Edwards. Players' didn't care or want to try. Worrying, as there are still plenty of games left to turn this around but I do not think our squad is good enough for anything higher than midtable right now. Clowns at the back like Kabasele and Cathcart who are STILL starting for us (ideally not their fault), and no RWB is why we will continue to struggle.
     
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  5. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    I might be imagining this but Edwards seemed noticeably less animated last night than in earlier games. Have we managed to suck the life out of him already? Perhaps he realises that the chances of him surviving beyond the international break are pretty much nil if there isn't a noticeable improvement in performance and results
     
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  6. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I'd have more respect for Edwards if he had the balls to say he's been let down in the transfer market.

    As it stands, by him implying he was happy with our business, he is either actually happy (and therefore clueless), or just another 'yes man'.
     
  7. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Don't think it bothers them in the slightest, total virtue signalling.
     
  8. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Not the first time that has happened either..

    West Brom away for example.
     
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  9. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    We do seem to have a knack of doing this. Remember when Holebas offered a fan over the barrier for a scrap after we lost 1-0 to Southampton in the Cup? Part of me thinks players' do it to sort of obsolve themselves from the performance or result (to show they care) - and it might be that some really are genuine in being sorry for how the game went, but I think when Chelsea did it at Bournemouth (they lost 4-0), half of them were smiling afterwards.
     
  10. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Or mascot, go get them going. The new Harry.
     
  11. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Except if you just look at the likes of Scott Parker, managers saying in public that they've been let down in the transfer market usually just leads to a sacking anyway.

    You've therefore missed out the possibility that he's said he was happy in public, but has been outspoken with his annoyance to the board in private.

    As I've said in the 'Edwards out' thread - only those behind the scenes will really know what actually happened, and therefore how much blame he needs to take for the squad.

    We can only really judge from the point of view of how he's actually been doing with the players he does have at his disposal now. From that perspective at least I think he's under-performing, though it can be debated.
     
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  12. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    There are numerous deluded sports people.
    The coach's fault.
    Their physio's fault.
    Parents ' fault.
    Team mates' fault.
    You never really learn unless you understand your errors.
    Too much money,too many egos,too little accountability from top to bottom.
     
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  13. Dorset-Orn

    Dorset-Orn First Year Pro

    I honestly feel that our whole player assessment policy is rubbish.!
    Our squad is stuffed with players that are:
    - young and unproven,
    - bought cheap as prone to injury,
    - brought in on loan recovering from injury,
    - joined us only as a chance to get on the ladder to play in England,
    - trying for new start having failed elsewhere,
    - flashy but think they're a bit too good for us.
    We have no real grit and that's the starting point in this division. There's no way RE can get this shambles promoted this season.!
     
  14. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    You're right we can only speculate. And there's obvious peril in publicly throwing your employer and/or team under the bus. But there are I think ways in which he could convey a message about needing more time and tempering expectations, without relying on relentless optimism which overrides what we can all see is happening in reality.
     
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  15. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    You know you are in the **** when you are bringing on Dan Gosling at half time to try and change the game.
     
  16. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Edwards has still been doing a bit of that though - for instance he's spoken in his interviews about not being happy with the performances after our last few games, and there being a few things we need to "tweak" and improve upon, but there haven't been any signs of those tweaks and improvements on the pitch.

    But ultimately unless he does throw a Parker, it won't be what he says to the press which keeps him in a job or not - it's what he's doing behind the scenes and what the team does on the pitch, and as I've pointed out and you've recognised, we can only speculate on what's gone on behind the scenes.
     
  17. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    We did improve in the second half though, albeit that would have also been from the formation change, and Gosling seemed a tad livelier than in his previous cameos.
     
  18. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I think it's too late now because he's already gone on record.

    He should have said something like "we did want a couple more players in the window, but for various reasons we weren't able to get them, but I'm confident of the group I've got to work with." or something.
     
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  19. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    That's what you wanted I thought
     
  20. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    We certainly were not
     
  21. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Whatever you think of the transfer window, there was enough quality in that side last night to have put up a far better showing than they did
     
  22. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Christ alive, even now Leventhal has been cut adrift and become a maverick vigilante patrolling the Occupation Highway, he still comes out with this Pravda-lite horseshit:

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    Tom Cleverley is not, in any way, shape, or form, at this point in human history, one of the 'key vertebrae' of this team, and pretending that he is is just another small contributor to Gino feeling empowered to paper over, or indeed even just smugly wave away, the ever growing cracks in the wall.

    (Not to mention of course that, as per the injury despatches from the past couple of days, Louza is effectively nowhere bloody near returning, and dangling the idea that 'oooh perhaps he might not be too far away in a month's time ;)' is equally unhelpful)
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2022
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  23. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Where was the quality in that side? JP and Davis from what I could see. In the entire squad I'd only class Louza, JP, Asprilla, Sarr and Davis as having good technical ability with a ball at their feet. 6 years of PL football and we've ended up with this squad, it's an absolute disgrace. Just look at the midfield last night, we brought f*cking Dan Gosling on to get us back in the game. He should be in League One!
     
  24. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Vertebra.
     
  25. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Corrected for you.
     
  26. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Last night was the first time I'd seen Bayo and I was struck but how utterly hopeless he was. Did someone at the club really think he'd be an adequate replacement for Cucho and/or Dennis?
     
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  27. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Speaking of Bayo - people say he did a funny leap or something just after Blackburn scored their first? I never saw that, anyone know what happened?
     
  28. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I remember those posters: Hello Boys
     
  29. Chewitt

    Chewitt Forum Extraordinaire

    That’d be suicide! 3/4 months into a new much bigger job nobody in their right minds are going to start calling out their new boss regardless of what they think.

    I doubt the respect of a few Watford fans will help him sleep at night when he’s applying for league two jobs again.
     
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  30. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Doubt it. More a case of the stars alligned and it was an opportunity for Pozzo to benefit both Bayat brothers simultaneously?
     
  31. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    D'you think the lino was saying 'I don't know' when Kabs asked him who was offside?
     
  32. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I've watched it a few times and think he was saying "Up the Rovers!"
     
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  33. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    We improved from terrible to awful.
     
  34. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Yes I'm quite happy in the Championship.
     
  35. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Agree that the Blackburn defender had dropped back to play Davis on.

    I think the ball was headed by Kabasele onto the defender at point blank range which caused it to spoon up - had Davis been in an offside position am I right in thinking that a point blank deflection like that means the correct call would still have been offside?
     

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