Isaac Success

Discussion in 'Former Players Archive' started by UpUpAndAway, Oct 2, 2016.

?

Success in or out

  1. In

    47.7%
  2. Out

    52.3%
  1. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2015
    Messages:
    1,758
    Likes Received:
    1,226
    Trophy Points:
    113
    & for those that didn't know his actual full name is;

    Issac Great Success Ajaya


     
  2. Hornet4ever

    Hornet4ever WFC Forums Last Man Standing Winner 2018/2019

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2015
    Messages:
    1,758
    Likes Received:
    1,226
    Trophy Points:
    113
    All starts to make a bit more sense now.

    Club bought him for 400k from his first club. Then we 'paid' (or perhaps better to say transferred) 12.5m to Granada whilst they were still under Pozzo ownership.

    They would no doubt have got their money back & then some, when they sold out to the Chinese as part of the player valuations, so it's likely Issac has already paid for himself for the whole contract term & any sell on will be all profit.
     
  3. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator

    Staff Member
    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2011
    Messages:
    20,820
    Likes Received:
    4,418
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    In a bubble
    3 goals in six starts.
     
    Relegation Certs likes this.
  4. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2006
    Messages:
    20,444
    Likes Received:
    9,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kent (Originally Watford)
    Bizarrely negative in regards to Success' ability and potential. He's actually looked very good for us this season and certainly looks to be capable of developing into a very effective player at this level over the next couple of years.

    He has a very good touch, is extremely strong, can pick a pass and is fast. If he can develop more composure in front of goal and continue showing the right attitude and work ethic to improve then he could become absolutely lethal.
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2018
  5. magyarorszag

    magyarorszag Squad Player

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2008
    Messages:
    9,894
    Likes Received:
    149
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Behind you
    This guy has been playing at a decent level for 5 years now and has consistently failed to produce. 80 games 11 goals. I guess I know nothing about football though seeing as we just gave him a new contract. Maybe I'm being hasty, but I'm not sure how an epl side can expect to get anywhere with this guy as a start, its baffling
     
    Last edited: Dec 5, 2018
  6. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Messages:
    91,532
    Likes Received:
    23,467
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    thatcher
    Location:
    Right in the mixer
    He's better than Gray, because he can run with the ball and is strong enough to outmuscle defenders, plus he draws a lot of fouls. However, he's a terrible passer, has zero footballing brain and can't finish for ****.

    He's definitely an option to have, because he is direct and when running directly towards goal, can make things happen, but he'll never be a 15 goal a season striker in the Premier League
     
  7. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2015
    Messages:
    9,658
    Likes Received:
    7,494
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    fhuque off luton
    The jury will be returning their verdict after the cardiff home match. Stay tuned folks.

    But the rumour is: "he's dung".
     
  8. kVA

    kVA Reservist

    Joined:
    May 17, 2017
    Messages:
    3,040
    Likes Received:
    2,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The village of fear
    He’s Okaka with fitness.
     
  9. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    33,127
    Likes Received:
    20,674
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Toronto, Barcelona, Watford
    Had a poor match last night, but so did a lot of others. He was at fault for the second goal because of his careless pass.

    But I've seen a lot of good things from him this season. He's young and will improve. I have no issue in his signing a long contract and I think he's an exciting prospect.
     
  10. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2006
    Messages:
    69,521
    Likes Received:
    26,078
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The Midlands
    I just wish he'd sort out his passing in key areas. The role he's often put in sees him as ball carrier in the final third. But it's pointless him muscling his way past opponents or holding the ball up to make space for others only to then mess up the pass to a teammate. At least once in every match he's guaranteed to do all the hard work and then fail to make a pass to someone streaking clear into space. Last night it was Bobby P through on goal (albeit in the centre circle) but Success played it straight to a Citeh player who was chasing back.
     
    Harrow Orn and wfc4ever like this.
  11. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,873
    Likes Received:
    20,556
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
    He's out of his depth in the prem, but no more so than any of our other strikers.
     
  12. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2012
    Messages:
    20,769
    Likes Received:
    23,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But he’s got potential to be amazing. Or so others keep telling me.
     
  13. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator

    Staff Member
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    58,002
    Likes Received:
    6,921
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Harpenden
    If he could pass and shoot with some accuracy he'd be a very decent player.
     
  14. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2015
    Messages:
    9,658
    Likes Received:
    7,494
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    fhuque off luton
    If he was british and called Ian Sturgess he'd be nowhere near our first eleven.
     
  15. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,873
    Likes Received:
    20,556
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
  16. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode First Year Pro

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2016
    Messages:
    878
    Likes Received:
    591
    Trophy Points:
    93
    At roughly the same age as Success a certain Ross Jenkins (yes that one) had played 15 games for Palace and 44 for Watford. He had scored 6 goals. He was our record signing in that moment at £30,000.

    Dare I say that strikers (like central defenders) mature.....
     
  17. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2012
    Messages:
    7,147
    Likes Received:
    1,063
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Reservation Sales Consultant
    Location:
    West Sussex
    I like Success but thought he was lazy when out of possession last night
     
  18. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Messages:
    19,179
    Likes Received:
    8,225
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Berlin
    In his first few starts this season his through-balls were excellent though...

    My theory is that after watching Deulofeu and Pereyra screw-up the chances he gave them vs. Newcastle he just decided it was pointless continuing.
     
    GoingDown likes this.
  19. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2006
    Messages:
    15,284
    Likes Received:
    5,802
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Space City, Houston TX.
    Undoubtedly earned his starting spot after the early cameos that looked very promising, but needs to be more productive. Clearly room to improve, but I think he’s shown enough to give hope that he’s capable of being a decent option.
     
    NathWFC likes this.
  20. La_tempesta_cielo_68

    La_tempesta_cielo_68 First Team

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    24,451
    Likes Received:
    5,863
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Somerset
    Lacks experience and will only get that through a run of games.
     
  21. Klein Lust

    Klein Lust Uber Keine

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2017
    Messages:
    612
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Anglesey
    Nahhhhhh, he's a decent striker or winger, I reckon he'll become a club ledge, until he gets sold in late January
     
  22. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2008
    Messages:
    8,671
    Likes Received:
    3,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Bray
    I hope you are right, once R.J. Started scoring he didn't stop!
     
  23. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,873
    Likes Received:
    20,556
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
    Yes Liam Henderson should be ready for first team action round about now. Wayne Andrews too. RO, yes but you had to go back a long way for that classic example :)
    Dare I say that some strikers mature but remain rubbish.....
     
  24. Pob

    Pob Reservist

    Joined:
    May 29, 2017
    Messages:
    1,218
    Likes Received:
    1,891
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Haslemere
    I’ve just been watching highlights of the recent glorious Palace win and one player who caught my eye was Isaac Success.

    Although young Isaac didn’t actually technically play I was nevertheless really impressed with the role he plays in goal celebrations from the side line. He’s great. Time and time I’ve seen it where he is first to the goal scorer and gets him in a big cuddly bear type hug with a massive happy grin on his face. I think this is a key contribution to the team.
     
  25. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2006
    Messages:
    69,521
    Likes Received:
    26,078
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The Midlands
    He's taken on the Okaka role.
     
  26. Bring Back Standing

    Bring Back Standing Reservist

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2018
    Messages:
    1,273
    Likes Received:
    666
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  27. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2011
    Messages:
    39,087
    Likes Received:
    14,961
    Trophy Points:
    113
  28. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK Reservist

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2017
    Messages:
    1,482
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Bring Back Standing likes this.
  29. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Joined:
    May 25, 2016
    Messages:
    11,987
    Likes Received:
    4,965
    Trophy Points:
    113
  30. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet Reservist

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2013
    Messages:
    1,159
    Likes Received:
    1,293
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I must admit, for me Isaac has probably been the biggest disappointment this season .

    When he first arrived in the Mazarri season he always provided excitement coming off the bench with his pace and power. He looke. perfectly suited to the premier league . He then had his brain fart last season but this season it appeared the attitude was right and it could be his time . He looked good early on with his cameos and like he could develop into a centre forward but his performances have become increasingly peripheral . He doesn’t seem to have much composure in front of goal most of the time either .

    Still I do think there is time for improvement and there’s a good player in there somewhere . Maybe he needs to go back to more of a wide role at some point .
     
    wfc4ever likes this.
  31. La_tempesta_cielo_68

    La_tempesta_cielo_68 First Team

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    24,451
    Likes Received:
    5,863
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Somerset
    None of our forwards are performing at the moment, not just Success.

    They have to scrap for hoofs from the back whilst our lightweight midfield drops deeper and deeper.
     
    iamofwfc likes this.
  32. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    Messages:
    13,694
    Likes Received:
    4,462
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    leighton buzzard
    Out of interest, how much longer does the 'he's got potential' tag last for with Success?
     
  33. reids

    reids First Team

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    16,191
    Likes Received:
    9,897
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Harrow
    -6 games
     
  34. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2006
    Messages:
    14,877
    Likes Received:
    1,316
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Harrow
    He doesnt look fit.

    Could of sworn he had loads of pace whe at Granada.
     
    Steve Leo Beleck likes this.
  35. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    Messages:
    13,694
    Likes Received:
    4,462
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    leighton buzzard
    That's what a lifestyle of Baileys and brass does to you.
     

Share This Page